Video Of Santee California Plane Crash
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That poor UPS driver. Talk about being at the wrong place at the wrong time. That thing was screaming when it hit.
Yeah, that was more than a simple loss of power where you can at least try to glide it down. He looked to be well above stall speed. RIP to all. That was ugly.
Doctor piloting a twin? That practically screams “inexperienced pilot in over their head”. Doctors flying twins is a running joke in professional pilot circles.
”Had a problem and were trying to land”.
My guess: engine failure, followed by loss of control from an inexperienced pilot.
Get slow in one of those, and it rolls over, as do all twins below VMCA.
A classic blunder.
The video shows the airplane at 90 degrees of bank - the result of a loss of control. It’s going relatively fast. To be expected when there is no lift counter acting gravity. It’s a free falling object following the loss of control.
”Had a problem and were trying to land”.
My guess: engine failure, followed by loss of control from an inexperienced pilot.
Get slow in one of those, and it rolls over, as do all twins below VMCA.
A classic blunder.
The video shows the airplane at 90 degrees of bank - the result of a loss of control. It’s going relatively fast. To be expected when there is no lift counter acting gravity. It’s a free falling object following the loss of control.
Didn't the old V-Tail Bonanza's first start the term, "Doctor Killer"?
That’s what I’ve heard
That must have been terrifying. I feel terrible for the UPS driver. What are the odds!
My grandpa died in a small plane crash in Colorado to go hunting before I was born. Pilot was in over his head and got into IFR conditions when he wasn’t rated. Wingtip hit the ground and that was that. Four fatalities
My grandpa died in a small plane crash in Colorado to go hunting before I was born. Pilot was in over his head and got into IFR conditions when he wasn’t rated. Wingtip hit the ground and that was that. Four fatalities
Watching that video one has to ask. He's banked over at 90 degrees, with at least 200+ knots of air blasting over the ailerons, descending rapidly, from what appears to be some recoverable altitude. Why not roll out wings level and pull out? What am I not seeing that prevented that? (Assuming the pilot wasn't incapacitated).
This is the house on the corner that was totally destroyed.
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10819 Greencastle St, Santee, CA 92071 | Zillow
10819 Greencastle St, Santee CA, contains 1288 sq ft and was built in 1972.It contains 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. The Rent Zestimate for this property is $2,795/mo, which has increased by $2,795/mo in the last 30 days.
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Flying an airplane, even takeoffs, landings, maneuvers are not difficult. It requires a bit more skill than driving, but most airplanes are inherently stable and anyone with normal coordination can learn to do it safely. What kills most pilots is lack of judgment. Which makes it similar to motorcycling.
"As a pilot, I will use my superior judgment to avoid needing my superior stick & rudder skills."
Yeah, I've often glamorized using my GI Bill to get my pilots license, but then reality sinks in and it's just too risky, especially when the stats are against the small plane pilots and I see crashes like this.
I had a friend that was a flight instructor for a few years . When ever there was an opening in his schedule I would get an introductry lesson and I I could land and take off a Cessna 152. I had the confidence I could do a solo flight but flying in not my thing. I love planes any type plane and like going for plane rides. Piloting is not for fools . So I am.
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Agreed. I don't fly twins, and for good reason. Common perception is that they are safer (how could they not be, with 2 engines?). Many people don't realize that 2 engines means twice the probability of engine failure, and in a twin, engine failure is more dangerous than in singles, unless the pilot is proficient and current and on top of his game at the moment it happens. Sadly, that is not always the case, especially in GA which doesn't have the discipline and operating standards as commercial and military.
That said, the speed and angle of impact in that video does not look like a Vmc roll. Maybe it is, hard to tell from the poor angle and quality.
Weren't there some twin engine designs meant to operate a single prop? The one I remember was the Lear Fan. I thought that the idea was that if one engine went out, it would still have a single prop without having to compensate.
There is the Cessna 336/337 Skymaster twin, one engine in front, one behind, no differential thrust if an engine fails, so no Vmc. So if you use that airplane to get your multiengine rating, it comes with a centerline thrust limitation.
The ATC recording suggests the pilot was getting distracted and behind the airplane leading up the the crash. Multiple altitude warnings from approach/tower, sounds like he thought he was climbing when he was actually descending.
The ATC recording suggests the pilot was getting distracted and behind the airplane leading up the the crash. Multiple altitude warnings from approach/tower, sounds like he thought he was climbing when he was actually descending.
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MolaKule
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Hmm. Wonder if he became disoriented due to a CO leak from the engine or a buildup of excessive C02 in the cabin?
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