Some really good info scattered throughout this vid.
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Various Mobil 1 formulas tested in HPL’s lab! Motor Oil Geek LSJr video
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dnewton3
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Love it or Hate it ....
Another LSJr video
As much as I've not been a fan of most of his videos, (mainly because of poor presentation skills and lacking organization), this one video seems to track well and clearly state the summary. A much better effort on his part.
One concern I have that cannot be answered adequately from this video is the last tests he runs contrasting the "old" and "new" Mobil 1 products. I think it's not good practice to assume the "old" changed X% due to oxidation. Unless he has a qualified, accurate oxidation value from the time when the "old" product was initially made, he has no idea how much it changed over the time it sat before testing in the current time frame.
Another LSJr video
As much as I've not been a fan of most of his videos, (mainly because of poor presentation skills and lacking organization), this one video seems to track well and clearly state the summary. A much better effort on his part.
One concern I have that cannot be answered adequately from this video is the last tests he runs contrasting the "old" and "new" Mobil 1 products. I think it's not good practice to assume the "old" changed X% due to oxidation. Unless he has a qualified, accurate oxidation value from the time when the "old" product was initially made, he has no idea how much it changed over the time it sat before testing in the current time frame.
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Unfortunately true. But for those here that like to look at VOA’s, I found the Euro formulas especially interesting.
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Man, look at those ZDDP levels in that old metal can 5-30.
Seems like the "Supercar" 0-40 is the old original FS 0-40
Yes and the ESP formula continues to be easily accessible and an over performer imo.
I’m not sure the new FS 0w40 formula is an improvement over the old one.
I’m not sure the new FS 0w40 formula is an improvement over the old one.
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Fantastic content by LSJR. Smash the like and subscribe to "line his pockets" 
Interesting on the truck/SUV formula.
Also Interesting that the BITOG fave 0W40 isn't so great and shears out of grade (what I saw when I used it...its not always fuel) vs. the ESP and Porsche flavors. I know that's what I'd try if I went away from HPL based on this video. Would have loved to see the HPL Euro 5W40 in there for reference with the tests he does.
Interesting on the truck/SUV formula.
Also Interesting that the BITOG fave 0W40 isn't so great and shears out of grade (what I saw when I used it...its not always fuel) vs. the ESP and Porsche flavors. I know that's what I'd try if I went away from HPL based on this video. Would have loved to see the HPL Euro 5W40 in there for reference with the tests he does.
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Yes good info. I’m not sure I agree with Lake on choosing Truck & SUV over EP based solely on shear stability. EP has shown great extended interval results with clean engine internals and pistons.
I agree. EP likely has more AO which helps assist the base oil going further before oxidizing. You can see where they cut corners (cost) on some of the formulations. I think one of the main advantages, in general, with the ESP line is the more shear stable VII.
Depends on what you prioritize is really all. Losing a little viscosity for most folks is a non-issue and even more so here where folks seem to favor up-grading anyway. Plus your average BITOGer isn't pushing their vehicle.
M1 0W-40 has been know to sheer down quickly. It's basically a really good 0W-30 and if treated as such is a really great oil. If I had a vehicle recommending a 0W-40 I would look elsewhere.
dnewton3
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One thing that was more prominent in this video was that he did a good job of making the application distinctions relative to the indicated results. That has been lacking in many of his previous videos. Lubes are marketed to a specific application. Racing lubes don't need longevity; they offer excellent protection at very high stress levels. The oxidation vs wear control topic will have (or at least should have) different appeals to different users. Whereas road-going lubes intended for today's longer OCIs are going to be more focused on contamination levels (soot and fuel build up) and concern for emissions equipment, just to name a few.
And I would note that none of the differences/distinctions will matter one little iota to any BITOGer who still insists on changing the Mobil 1 (regardless of flavor) every 5k miles in his lightly used DD Camry ... There are WAY too many conversations around here that focus on the minute content nuances of various lubes, and yet they rarely ever result from folks who actually use these premium products to their full capacity where any delta would make an actual difference.
And I would note that none of the differences/distinctions will matter one little iota to any BITOGer who still insists on changing the Mobil 1 (regardless of flavor) every 5k miles in his lightly used DD Camry ... There are WAY too many conversations around here that focus on the minute content nuances of various lubes, and yet they rarely ever result from folks who actually use these premium products to their full capacity where any delta would make an actual difference.
Patman
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I have always felt that M1 had way too many different versions and I wondered if some of them might be the same formula with different labels. So it’s nice to see that they do have different variations in their formulas. I would love to see these tests done with 0w20 and 5w30 though as they are probably the most common viscosities that people use these days.
Would have been nice to see 0w-40 ESP x4 but you can still find x3 out there. Autozone carries both and iirc it qualifies for the $40 5 quart + filter deal.
I wish I was tuned into oxidation testing when I ran that basic Mobil 1 5w-20 twice in my Mustang, one was SN+ the other SP, for 10k miles and and it came back looking fine but I don’t know how much it oxidized.
I agree. I’ve never seen any wear differences at 5k oci’s. But I have seen engine cleanliness differences between oils at 5k oci’s.
I made it maybe 30-40% and shut it down. On speed-up even.
Content LOOKS great. He speaks truth as I know it about Amsoil and Mobil1
He is wasting a bunch of time on each machine and then his voice gave me a splitting headache. I LOVE the guy, love and sub to his channel. But something about the tonal quality, it's just me. OUCH!!
What were the results?
Content LOOKS great. He speaks truth as I know it about Amsoil and Mobil1
He is wasting a bunch of time on each machine and then his voice gave me a splitting headache. I LOVE the guy, love and sub to his channel. But something about the tonal quality, it's just me. OUCH!!
What were the results?
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We’re going to find out. My old 09 Altima used a half qt of idemitsu SN in 9k after I gave it to my daughter. I’ve never taken the oci that far and it was replaced with truck and suv sn plus. The car never used a drop up till 5k any other time. In defense of idemitsu, she also drives like Danica Patrick.
I just muted it until the voa’s.
Seems like about 50% (just before ~10 minutes is a good starting point) Thanks
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