Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: FrankN4
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: FrankN4
Just remember that the VR-1 is even thinner than the 10W-30 Synpower.
Also remember that it has a TBN of less than 6.
The detergent pack is so low, Valvoline doesn't even list calcium sodium, or magnesium. You would have to change it out VERY OFTEN, very short OCI.
Come on guys, read the data sheets!
VR-1 comes in 3 different varieties.
Conventional (which is clearly not "thinner then Synpower", clearly has a high detergent additive package with listed levels for ALL metallic additives"), a new synthetic that is apparently safe for street use and similar to Joe Gibbs racing oil, which Valvoline makes (it's too new to have a data sheet), and a non street legal synthetic.
He said 10W-30 synthetic. He gave the PDS for the 10W-30 conventional. I took him for his word and just wanted to remind him the synthetic was rather thin, low TBN, no detergent adds mentioned.
I must apologise to
FrankN4: my bad on the Data sheet - I linked to a PDF thru a google search with 'synthetic' in the name but it wasn't highlighted in the search results. So, it appears NO data sheet yet for the 10w-30 "street" API SL rated synthetic "blue dyed" oil. It must have a minimum detergent pack to meet SL though, I would hope. Wonder what the weight is? Sloshes about
very easlily in the bottle - for what that's worth
No apology needed and no problem. If I had a dime every time I turned left at Google, or Yahoo for that matteer, we could open a keg.
I got this information from someone who actually works for Valvoline. Since they are not yet publislhed, I cannot swear to the accuracy, but I do believe it to be accurate. All 3 are for 10W-30.
Synpower
40C-64
100C-10.5
HTHS-3.0
TBN-8
Zinc-830
Phos-760
Calcium-1910
Sodium-490
SM-GF4
Synthetic VR-1
40C-64
100C-10.5
HTHS-3.0
TBN-8
Zinc-1400
Phos-1300
Calcium-1910
Sodium-490
SL
Synthetic Raceing
40C-60.81
100C-10.2
HTHS-3.0
TBN-6
Zinc-1200
Phosphorus-1200
Calcium-?
Sodium-?
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