Valvoline restore safe in 2016 Volvo with 302 hp B4204T9 engine?

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Since I’ve heard about Valvoline Restore I’ve wondered if it would be safe to use in my Volvo with the 2.0 302hp engine with 116,000 miles.
I messaged Valvoline and I received the typical follow the manufacturer recommendation.
I’m really interested in trying it since I pulled the pvc valve.
I’ve watched Lake Speed Juniors videos and I’d really like to try it so I’m hoping someone here on BITOG has some feedback with pros & cons.
I’m aware there were issues with clogged filters initially so short change intervals were recommended.
This would be good before & after comparison.

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Ducati996 said:
Since I’ve heard about Valvoline Restore I’ve wondered if it would be safe to use in my Volvo with the 2.0 302hp engine with 116,000 miles.
I messaged Valvoline and I received the typical follow the manufacturer recommendation.
I’m really interested in trying it since I pulled the pvc valve.
I’ve watched Lake Speed Juniors videos and I’d really like to try it so I’m hoping someone here on BITOG has some feedback with pros & cons.
I’m aware there were issues with clogged filters initially so short change intervals were recommended.
This would be good before & after comparison.

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That Volvo 2.0L is known for high oil consumption, when the low tension rings get gummed up with carbon. That makes it an ideal candidate for both the Valvoline Restore & Protect, or the Valvoline Premium Blue Restore. But the later one is much more expensive, since it comes from Cummins dealers only.

Restore & Protect may take a couple extra oil changes in comparison to Premium Blue Restore, but will deliver desired results at a lower cost.

There is no risk in using either in your engine (especially in Florida), unless you intend to do extended intervals. 5000 miles would be my limit for either, with an oil filter swap halfway through.
 
Technically not to their "VCC RBS0-2AE" spec but it's fine to use if we're honest. They call for a 0w-20 and how many of these go to quick lube places and get something that's not to exact spec but if changed frequently enough won't be an issue in the 150k they're typically owned to. Use the 5w-30 version instead of the 0/5w-20.
 
factorytuned2012 said:
what does engine displacement and horsepower output have to do with the oil? I just wouldn't use it I don't like new packaging and labels to sell an elixir.
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Are you serious?
It has everything to do with it when it’s a 4 cylinder 2 liter direct injected turbo super charged engine developing 302 hp (150 hp/liter) & 300 lb/ft of torque in a heavy 4 wheel drive automobile that currently has 116,000 miles on it.
If we scaled this up to yesterdays muscle car engines that ranged from 396 to 454 cubic inches that would be 973~1161 horse power with similar torque.
And then there are the oil specification’s
A5/B5 I really don’t know what that means but someone here on BITOG does.

Next oil change I’m going to try Restore & possibly a chemtool B12 enema.
 
Are we talking about Restore & Protect, or Restore. Those are 2 different products, wioth the latter only available through Cummins dealers. But it does have a higher HTHS viscosity if that's what you want/need.
 
@Graham Piccinini not to hijack this thread. Do think a different engine that has 60k (no oil consumption) could do a 8K oil change with the expensive Valvoline Premium Blue Restore Gen2 10w-30? I plan to do a 4k filter change and UOA.
 
Ducati996 said:
Are you serious?
It has everything to do with it when it’s a 4 cylinder 2 liter direct injected turbo super charged engine developing 302 hp (150 hp/liter) & 300 lb/ft of torque in a heavy 4 wheel drive automobile that currently has 116,000 miles on it.
If we scaled this up to yesterdays muscle car engines that ranged from 396 to 454 cubic inches that would be 973~1161 horse power with similar torque.
And then there are the oil specification’s
A5/B5 I really don’t know what that means but someone here on BITOG does.

Next oil change I’m going to try Restore & possibly a chemtool B12 enema.
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You know “restore and protect” is just a packaging label? Power output and displacement means nothing to a label. As long as the oil meets spec and correct viscosity for that engine that is what matters.
 
factorytuned2012 said:
You know “restore and protect” is just a packaging label? Power output and displacement means nothing to a label. As long as the oil meets spec and correct viscosity for that engine that is what matters.
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Power output and displacement have caused all sorts of reliability and other issues in this engine, including the OP’s case of deposits.

So, absolutely those parameters that have caused issues are germane, and while the label doesn’t care about the cause, it does purport to remedy the effect.

So, again, I would encourage the OP to give it a try.

Volvo engines, historically, are hard on PCV systems and develop sludge and deposits as a result. I have had good luck with HPL cleaning things up, but the choice of brand is up to the OP.

Also, and I think this important, the previous owner of my V70R changed the oil every 5,000 miles with M1 5W30. Volvo had a 10,000 interval, but he was conservative. That engine is spotless inside. A lot of Volvo engines were ruined in the early 2000s through the use of the wrong specification oil by dealers.

So, specification matters, certainly, in Volvo engines, and I understand the OP’s concern.

Let me also suggest to the OP that HPL has been cleaning up the V70 XC, but even after 20,000 miles, there is still work to be done.

Be patient. report back.
 
Jetronic said:
Are we talking about Restore & Protect, or Restore. Those are 2 different products, wioth the latter only available through Cummins dealers. But it does have a higher HTHS viscosity if that's what you want/need.
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I’m not sure what I need and I don’t know the difference I’m hoping for guidance.
 
Ducati996 said:
I’m not sure what I need and I don’t know the difference I’m hoping for guidance.
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A5/B5 comes from ACEA A5/B5 and it defines the minimum quality level of a product, specifically for european engine oils. A for gasoline cars, B for diesels so in this case it's a dual spec.

A5/B5 means it has a reduced veiscosity (for fuel economy reasons) but it has to stay in grade during use so needs at least some shear stability. This is a bit contrary to Ilsac oils. Another requirement is reduced volatility compared to API oils.

I haven't looked at the restore and protect 5W-30 in detail but if you need a cleaning oil for a reasonable cost that's the way to go.
 
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