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I like Valvoline products here but wouldn’t pay $30 for the restore and protect.
I wouldn't pay $30 either, can get better deals than that
^ So, I just changed out the first run on the R&P 5w30 and the AC/Delco PF63 and went back with the same. The 4.3 DI engine was down only 1/4 quart at 5,000 miles so I’m feeling good that the engine seems to be healthy. The drained oil was a dark ‘ molasses’ color but certainly not black looking which leads me to think that the engine was fairly clean to start with and/or the R&P is indeed a slow cleaning oil as described by Valvoline. I’ve used Valvoline for decades and will continue to use the R&P either way.
Just another anecdotal bit of information...
I'm a little over 3000 miles into my first run of R&P on 14 Volvo with 5 cylinder. These had bad piston rings that cause consumption as it ages.
The consumption isn't reducing so far, BUT....
I was down 1/2 a quart, so I topped it up, probably put in 3/4 quart.
Quieted the engine back down to how it was right when I did the oil change / seems smoother. I don't see how being 1/2 a quart down would cause that, so I feel like the fresh additives did their trick again. When I first did the oil change, engine was super smooth for about 2000 miles.
I know it seems like something in my head, but that's my report. haha
I'm a little over 3000 miles into my first run of R&P on 14 Volvo with 5 cylinder. These had bad piston rings that cause consumption as it ages.
The consumption isn't reducing so far, BUT....
I was down 1/2 a quart, so I topped it up, probably put in 3/4 quart.
Quieted the engine back down to how it was right when I did the oil change / seems smoother. I don't see how being 1/2 a quart down would cause that, so I feel like the fresh additives did their trick again. When I first did the oil change, engine was super smooth for about 2000 miles.
I know it seems like something in my head, but that's my report. haha
1/2 Qt in 3K Mi isn't too shabby on a ten year old car either.
True. I had already put in another 1/2 quart though.
Those add volumes to " top off " the consumed oil aren't bad at all when compared to a Hyundai engine. The notoriously bad rings in their GDI engines have earned a bad reputation for contributing to oil consumption and fouled catalytic converters. Hyundai/ Kia says that 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles is " acceptable " for them / their engines.
Pretty much every manufacturer says the same thing.
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I am burning through a Litre every 3000 miles in one of my cars.
I have nothing to lose by trying it.
If it wasn’t burning oil , I wouldn’t be trying it.
It’s going in on September 3 and I will report back if I see any improvement over the next 4 oil changes ( Total 20,000 miles which should 12 months given how much I drive ).
This is the first car that I have ever owned that I have to keep an eye on the oil level ( 2015 Honda FIT ) and I don’t care what manufacturers say is acceptable, it’s not acceptable to have to add that much oil between oil changes ( replacing the entire crankcase volume by the time the next oil change is due ).
I don’t buy the stories changing it every 3000 miles would have prevented it.
I have nothing to lose by trying it.
If it wasn’t burning oil , I wouldn’t be trying it.
It’s going in on September 3 and I will report back if I see any improvement over the next 4 oil changes ( Total 20,000 miles which should 12 months given how much I drive ).
This is the first car that I have ever owned that I have to keep an eye on the oil level ( 2015 Honda FIT ) and I don’t care what manufacturers say is acceptable, it’s not acceptable to have to add that much oil between oil changes ( replacing the entire crankcase volume by the time the next oil change is due ).
I don’t buy the stories changing it every 3000 miles would have prevented it.
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Well you should begin to buy the story. 3k OCIs work well for engines like yours.
Also, I haven't read anyone's remarks here that 3k OCI would have prevented it. I have read multiple remarks that 3k OCIs would have significantly lessened it. That 1.5 engine of yours is a notorious fuel diluter. Thin oils are not the best resolve.
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I don’t buy anything until I see proof.
While it is a GDI, I drive exclusively long distance highway miles and haven’t had fuel dilution issues. My type of driving is extremely easy on oil despite the GDI. No smell of fuel on dipstick, oil level isn’t going up ( because of unburned fuel in crankcase ) and I have done a few UOA when I first got the car 10 years ago.
Sorry, never used “ thin oils” ( 0w30 ).
That said, I am very aware of the proof that had I changed the oil every 3000 miles, I would have spent A LOT more money on oil changes. I drive around 3700 miles per month - that would be one oil change per month. That’s insane.
“ I have read multiple remarks that 3K OCIs would HAVE significantly lessened it” isn’t the kind of proof that will change my mind.
Yeah, I read a few comments from people who swear it’s being caused by the oil being in use too long , and even heard they don’t care if the UOA results say the oil is fine ( proving oil dilution is not an issue ).
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Good to note you use 0w30.
Also, I wouldn't suggest changing filters every 3k. They ride for 6k OCIs with me.
My own OCIs will expand with Amsoil and (soon) HPL on-board. Thick 0w30 Euro and No VII 10w30 is what I'm using
Also, I wouldn't suggest changing filters every 3k. They ride for 6k OCIs with me.
My own OCIs will expand with Amsoil and (soon) HPL on-board. Thick 0w30 Euro and No VII 10w30 is what I'm using
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I have only used Amsoil SS 0w30 and HPL PP 0w30 along with premium oil filters ( Amsoil/Fram Ultra ).
Honda actually recommends changing the oil filter ( all their cars ) every second oil change but I change it every oil change.
PCV is fine BTW.
My policy is, I use top tier oil/filters ( designed to run a lot longer ) but follow the OLM ( oil life monitor ).
My son's 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe GDI 2.0T is at about 105,000 miles (original engine), and consumes no oil between 4000 mile OCI's--how is THAT explained? My wife's 2019 Santa Fe GDI 2.4L at about 44,000 miles consumes no oil between 4000 mile OCI's. How is that possible?
If not 1 quart in 600 miles...
probably you drive the car carefully, not stomping on the accelerator at stop lights etc,driving habits can and does lead to fuel dilution, drive like you have eggshells under your gas pedal and this will help gas mileage increase and the overall life of the car.
I drive like a 62 yo man. . . so you're right on that point. . . .my wife however, is a whole 'nuther story. My son drives more like her, and he hasn't managed to grenade the engine yet. Just sayin'.
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