Valvoline Restore & Protect

[Triple_Se7en]

Nasty engine, needing an oil filter change at 2k.
Vehicles are generally our 2nd biggest monetary investment in life (1st being home).
I just don't understand why some folks don't keep the engines relatively clean. Fresh, quality oil is still cheap.

 

[IveBeenRued]

Nasty engine, needing an oil filter change at 2k.
Vehicles are generally our 2nd biggest monetary investment in life (1st being home).
I just don't understand why some folks don't keep the engines relatively clean. Fresh, quality oil is still cheap.

In my case, my Subaru was run on AMSOIL Signature for the first 60K and then Pennzoil Ultra or Pennzoil Platinum for the last 90K. I have always used Fram Ultra filters. OCIs were 6-9K on the AMSOIL and 3-5K on the Pennzoil. So it’s not like I was cheaping out. The explanation is simple, VRP is capable of dissolving things that the other oils can’t.

 

[53' Stude]

I will say that it appears that VALVOLINE EP/HM cleans well from what a BrendanC has shown. Brother put load of it in new to him 08’ Yukon and went 4,200 on it. He cut filter apart and there was lots of carbon chunks in there. He put more in with some HPL EC 40 cleaner.

 

[hid3]

Vehicles are generally our 2nd biggest monetary investment in life (1st being home).
I just don't understand why some folks don't keep the engines relatively clean. Fresh, quality oil is still cheap.

There was a guy with nick "Drivbiwire" in the famous Canadian/US "tdiclub" forum who was actively advising people NOT to change the oil (unless the oil has ran many miles, providing his anecdotical evidence that old oil protects better) and rev their engines to redline (before shifting) everyday. To make things even more funny, his such posts were pinned and made sticky as a good example of maintenance.

 

[Ayrton]

I didn't notice any difference with my Volvo's filter after 5100 miles on Restore and Protect. My hunch has always been if an engine has been well maintained, an early filter change is not necessary. I could be wrong, but my car didn't need it.

 

[barbersurgeon]

3600mi oci on the first round of VRP just shy of 100 hrs according to the trip odo reading. 16 Jeep GC 3.6. Second run of VRP 5w-30 and a pure one cartridge will run about 4k miles I think.

 

[Cmobile]

A friend of mine added a can of Rislone to his R&P fill. I know ester vs R&P are different. Do you think there would be any harm from him having the two together in the sump?

My last OC was VRP and rislone engine treatment. Bout 1000 on that oil when changed. The vehicle is new to me, petrol 3l turbo. Oil was very dark at 1000 miles, although couldn't tell you if it was the VRP Rislone, or just a dirty engine.

The oil that came out prior to VRP had about 800 miles on it, and a bottle of liqui moly engine flush just before the change. Oil drain plug was left out for several hours to get as much old oil out as possible.

Currently running M1 0w40 FS and 2 bottles of rislone in an 8qt sump. Oil still amber, but less than 1000 miles.

Personal test here. When current oil turns dark, ill change and go back to VRP/Rislone to compare with M1 and have a look under the cover to evaluate varnish status.

Wish VRP was available in a thicker viscosity. 5w30 with Rislone seems a bit too thin for my liking. Might try VRP with HP EC

 

[ndarkside93]

Nasty engine, needing an oil filter change at 2k.
Vehicles are generally our 2nd biggest monetary investment in life (1st being home).
I just don't understand why some folks don't keep the engines relatively clean. Fresh, quality oil is still cheap.

I bought it with 234k miles on it and its oil was black on the drain so I knew it needed help. The R&P did a great job. Barely any oil burning and it’s ran about 10k miles since then and the second filter and the third filter when I changed the oil too have not clogged

 

[roaniecowpony]

Soooo.... I searched and read about Dexos applications in this thread. I have a 2014 GM 5.3 with about 120k miles on it. Always used a Mobil 1 full synthetic of one type or another, mostly Extended Performance. It seems to be using a quart within the OCI, maybe at around 3000 miles.

After watching the video below, I am considering using Valvoline R&P in the truck. Comments?

 

[martinq]

Soooo.... I searched and read about Dexos applications in this thread. I have a 2014 GM 5.3 with about 120k miles on it. Always used a Mobil 1 full synthetic of one type or another, mostly Extended Performance. It seems to be using a quart within the OCI, maybe at around 3000 miles.

After watching the video below, I am considering using Valvoline R&P in the truck. Comments?

If I could get it at a reasonable price I certainly would give it a try ... and I would commit to using it through the minimum 4x oil change interval.

 

[scip5.3L]

Soooo.... I searched and read about Dexos applications in this thread. I have a 2014 GM 5.3 with about 120k miles on it. Always used a Mobil 1 full synthetic of one type or another, mostly Extended Performance. It seems to be using a quart within the OCI, maybe at around 3000 miles.

After watching the video below, I am considering using Valvoline R&P in the truck. Comments?

I personally wouldn’t worry about the Dexos labeling for VRP. I am running it in a 2020 5.3L.

 

[roaniecowpony]

I personally wouldn’t worry about the Dexos labeling for VRP. I am running it in a 2020 5.3L.

That was my thought. I used M1 before they got Dexos licensed, long ago. That truck is still going strong (still using an M1 oil) at well over 300k with my friend. Also, Valvoline R&P is API SP qualified so it meets LSPI requirements for direct injection engines like my current 5.3L LT engine. Since I never put a catch can on this one, I figure it's probably snotted up on the intake valves and this oil consumption may be the rings being snotted up.

 

[scip5.3L]

That was my thought. I used M1 before they got Dexos licensed, long ago. That truck is still going strong (still using an M1 oil) at well over 300k with my friend. Also, Valvoline R&P is API SP qualified so it meets LSPI requirements for direct injection engines like my current 5.3L LT engine. Since I never put a catch can on this one, I figure it's probably snotted up on the intake valves and this oil consumption may be the rings being snotted up.

I will say my 5.3L seems to run better/quieter since I switched over, was running QSFS when I did my own oil changes and dealer bulk oil when I took it in to have them do it.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Soooo.... I searched and read about Dexos applications in this thread. I have a 2014 GM 5.3 with about 120k miles on it. Always used a Mobil 1 full synthetic of one type or another, mostly Extended Performance. It seems to be using a quart within the OCI, maybe at around 3000 miles.

After watching the video below, I am considering using Valvoline R&P in the truck. Comments?

Try the Valvoline R&P. But also move up in viscosity. You wanted our opinions, but never mentioned what viscosity you use in that 2014 GM.

 

[KnappAttak]

Soooo.... I searched and read about Dexos applications in this thread. I have a 2014 GM 5.3 with about 120k miles on it. Always used a Mobil 1 full synthetic of one type or another, mostly Extended Performance. It seems to be using a quart within the OCI, maybe at around 3000 miles.

After watching the video below, I am considering using Valvoline R&P in the truck. Comments?

I'm running it in my 2014 GM 5.3 and our Audi Q7 in a 5w-30 flavor. Both engines are notorious for oil ring sticking, and of course the 5.3 for collapsed lifters. I dont worry about DEXOS in the least. Could care less the VR&P doesn't have it really, and of course the VR&P has no EURO spec for the Audi either. If it cleans the ring lands and keeps them clean along with keeping the engine clean and prevents wear that what really counts.

The used oil analysis of the VR&P posted so far is looking really good actually, on par with the expensive boutique oils including Amsoil and HPL so nothing to worry about IMO. The proof is in the used oil analysis. Both of my engines I put the VR&P in run very nice and smooth now. The Audi completely quit using oil, but it also had a Berryman's piston soak, which I know did the heavy work freeing up the oil control rings. No need to worry about running VR&P one bit IMO.

 

[thetricky]

In my case, my Subaru was run on AMSOIL Signature for the first 60K and then Pennzoil Ultra or Pennzoil Platinum for the last 90K. I have always used Fram Ultra filters. OCIs were 6-9K on the AMSOIL and 3-5K on the Pennzoil. So it’s not like I was cheaping out. The explanation is simple, VRP is capable of dissolving things that the other oils can’t.

Amsoil SS is a strong cleaner as well, not just a “keep clean” oil, as evidenced by my two vehicles different results when moving to HPL. Car had a steady diet of SS at 10k for about 70k miles total, truck had off-the-shelf, Kirkland, supertech it’s whole life. Filter cuts in the car after HPL were nothing to write home about, truck had some good carbon built up quickly.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Try the Valvoline R&P. But also move up in viscosity. You wanted our opinions, but never mentioned what viscosity you use in that 2014 GM.

I've been running 5w30 M1 EP for about 4-5 years. Prior to that it was 5w20. So about half it's life on 5w30.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Amsoil SS is a strong cleaner as well, not just a “keep clean” oil, as evidenced by my two vehicles different results when moving to HPL. Car had a steady diet of SS at 10k for about 70k miles total, truck had off-the-shelf, Kirkland, supertech it’s whole life. Filter cuts in the car after HPL were nothing to write home about, truck had some good carbon built up quickly.

Amsoil SS 0w40 is in my 3.6 2018 Jeep JL right now. I'll either settle down on it or one of the M1 ESP or Supercar oils in 0w40 unless I see a reason not to.

 

[buster]

In my case, my Subaru was run on AMSOIL Signature for the first 60K and then Pennzoil Ultra or Pennzoil Platinum for the last 90K. I have always used Fram Ultra filters. OCIs were 6-9K on the AMSOIL and 3-5K on the Pennzoil. So it’s not like I was cheaping out. The explanation is simple, VRP is capable of dissolving things that the other oils can’t.

Maybe. That's at least what Valvoline is saying. The filter pics we are seeing really aren't conclusive of anything.

 

[buster]

My first run needed a filter change at 2k miles. I cut the filter open and it was completely clogged through. Probably should’ve changed earlier but i can’t hear the filter because of the location. I have a Honda civic with an r18 engine with 230k miles for reference.

From R&P?