This oil is pretty solid, but has definitely become a go-to for wishful thinkers and folks who have not faced the truth that their engine is clapped out. Go ahead and use it, but we need to get off the idea that it does more than clean up old engines a little bit. Also, need to call out folks who are suggesting that they should use it on brand new cars. That makes no sense, and, in fact there are better, cheaper oils holding manufacturer specifications readily available. The product has its place, for sure, but also seems to have folks drinking the Kool Ade.
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Typical BITOG when you get right down to it. It's not the only product for Kool-Aid drinkers, I won't bother rattling off any names, it's not worth the hassle to me. Having said that it has its place and imo is a good product for cleaning up an engine. Miracle worker, none of them are. Flame suit on.
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Pistons done in 4 OCI’s - dipsticks in 1/4 OCI
Let me guess. You believe any approved synthetic oil changed at 3-5k oci’s will keep pistons clean?
Time for a reality check…..you’re way off base.
Time for a reality check…..you’re way off base.
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This oil triggers some folks since it's not used per your opinion piece...
I'm just going to rebuttal to watch the squirm... It CAN be used since new.
Not exactly, because there are some inherently sludgy, dirty, garbage engines out there, and DI working against us. Some qualifiers are in order…. But say you had purchased the right engine at the outset, like a K 24, or one of the Nissan V6s, or even the GM 3.8s and you were using a lower tranche but still respectable oil like QSFS or ST and of course excluding Ecoboost and Hyundai/Kias from the discussion, then yes, your engine will stay spotless at the 3-5k OCI for more than the 150,000 miles that constitutes a typical lifespan. Are you suggesting something different?
It's their highest performing product and ideally is best to use on a new car from day 1. Second, it is in some sense a revolutionary change in that all oils prior to VRP could only keep deposits from forming. This oil can clean pistons back to OE level and keep them that way under OE drains.
Having an approved oil that can keep pistons at factor clean levels is extremely impressive feat.
For those needing a certain specification or a long drain oil, then look elsewhere.
Having an approved oil that can keep pistons at factor clean levels is extremely impressive feat.
For those needing a certain specification or a long drain oil, then look elsewhere.
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It’s been said that if a change does not bring some controversy - it’s not much of a change. There is also ? of what we can’t/must see to believe it …
However, VRP has spoken with relief from oil consumption …
Exactly. 100% engine/conditions dependent. R&P from new is perfect for many. It will prevent a lot of headaches for under $30 at Wally.
To blindly trust Supertech or many others in a new vehicle could prove to be very foolish….
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You're right, my Kool-Aid comment might have been misunderstood. The problem is it came from Valvoline which in all honesty is not a Bitog darling, so it does catch a bit of flack from time to time. I'm not a Valvoline fan, but after following the product here I would have ZERO issues using it. My only beef is they don't offer it in a 5W40, yet. If they do it will be going into my E-150.Way off base. It's their highest performing product and ideally is best to use on a new car from day 1. Second, it is in some sense a revolutionary change in that all oils prior to VRP could only keep deposits from forming. This oil can clean pistons back to OE level and keep them that way under OE drains.
Having an approved oil that can keep pistons at factor clean levels is extremely impressive.
For those needing a certain specification or a long drain oil, then look elsewhere.
VRP is responsible for a lot of butthurt.
This post is by far one of the worst in quite some time. Good job, you did it.
I've talked a lot about it and am responsible for a lot of posts about it. I take full responsibility for that LOL. And I get that many are probably tired of hearing about it. But being this is an OIL forum, and we haven't really seen anything new or interesting other than off-shelf vs bloated boutique oils, this was a different type of product and to me interesting.
Let me just be clear in that I'm not saying it's the best oil in the world. It has limitations like any other oil. It's only an API/ILSAC oil and it's not built for long drains.
Let me just be clear in that I'm not saying it's the best oil in the world. It has limitations like any other oil. It's only an API/ILSAC oil and it's not built for long drains.
The hilarious part to me is Valvoline went as far as to show multiple piston photos and even allowed LJJR into the lab and they talked about EVERYTHING other than what the actual ingredient was. And yet some still have a problem with it. LOLOL Can't make this up.....
I enjoy reading about it, and at the price point it sells for it's a winner that works imo. Regarding the best in the world, I learned as a kid there's no such thing, although I really wanted to believe there was. Maybe we can say when referencing any product there's "Good, Better and One of the Best, instead of The Best." So I guess it takes a Kool-Aid drinker to think anything is the best in the world. I better hide again.
Sort of agree, but Supertech and Kirkland have proven to deliver. I don’t recall seeing anyone saying that there is a problem with that oil. People may perceive them as downwmarket, but they are in every way equal to, say, QSFS or GTX.
I’m in the middle of a QSFS varnish clean up experiment as we speak. Details by year end. A hint QSFS was not up to the task causing the varnish. ESP is the cleaning test subject.
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Interesting, but was anyone claiming that QSFS was going to clean up varnish?
QSFS caused the varnish 5k oci’s by me.
You know this is a REALLY IMPORTANT post here!
Not being used per OP direction so therefore anyone recommending it is "Drinking Kool-Aid".
Also, OP "Don't use this in new cars since that makes no sense". Disregarding the evidence that suggests otherwise.
Can't make this stuff up! ha!
Looking forward to your write up, but very much in doubt that the QSFS caused the problem. I would also ask how much varnish we are talking about. I have seen more than a few K24s that have 200k, a visible layer of varnish visible after valve cover removal, but ticking along like new. I draw a wall between mild (?) varnish and piston ring deposits, impaction.
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