Used my Fram Suredrain the other day

[Alan]

I have to say that I like it a lot.You can modulate the flow pretty easily and it doesn't leak(well at least mine doesn't).Very nifty product indeed.Also when fully engaged the oil flows out pretty well,not as fast as a pulled plug but almost as,also the flow is more laminar

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Put in 4qts of Chevron 5W30 I scored from Walmart in my area with a production date of 6/2/04.Wonder if it's there to stay or it's just old stock they are trying to get rid of?

 

[icruse]

I have the Fram Suredrain and also like it. Very easy to use and no mess, puts some of the fun back in changing the oil.

Good Day,
Steven

 

[Chevynut67]

I have the SureDrain on all three of my vehicles. It's a great product. Too bad their filters aren't as good

 

[blupupher]

Just curious, how far up into the pan does the plug part screw in? Is it flush on the inside? Is there any chance that all the oil is not getting drained out of the pan with the Fram (or the futmo for that matter)?

 

[newtoncd8]

FWIW, I have used both the Fram SureDrain and Fumoto Drain Valve. Both work nicely, but the overall quality of the Fumoto is so much better. And, for me, the Fumoto drains the oil so much faster, it is worth the one-time extra $9 over the Fram.

 

[Alan]

The pan on my Corolla seems deep where it's threaded.I get the normal amount of oil out when I use the Suredrain.There will always be residual oil left in the engine anyways so it's no big deal.

 

[KW]

When I put a sure drain on my Jeep I happend to have a 229 V6 oil pan laying under the carport. So I checked to see how far the thing stuck up into the pan. It only went in as far as the welded nut on the inside of the pan. So it looks like all the oil that can drian out will drian out. I like the product too and soon even my Honda VFR will have one.

 

[labman]

It seems to me that anything that screws in where the drain plug does, would have to hold a little more old oil than without it. I also worry about a rock hitting the wrong place. Perhaps if I was plagued with replacing crush washers, I might see it differently. I figure I have changed the oil on my 77 truck over 80 times, and the original drain plug and washer are still working fine.

I guess you could use your drain, and then when it quits dripping, unscrew it and see how much more oil comes out. Likely it would be insignificant compared to the the amount hung up elsewhere in my truck. But I am a member of BITOG. and as anal as many of the rest are about some things.

Everybody talks making things last forever. How many are driving a 77 they bought new? Oh, and it is my daily driver.

 

[blupupher]

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Originally posted by labman:
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I guess you could use your drain, and then when it quits dripping, unscrew it and see how much more oil comes out. ......

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I was thinking of that, but then what is the point of using the drain valve?

KW, one of them I have is going on my Jeep next change, so that's the info I was looking for.

 

[blupupher]

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Originally posted by Seth_TJ:

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Originally posted by blupupher:
I was thinking of that, but then what is the point of using the drain valve?

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The Fumoto oil valve with the nipple is awesome.

You couldn't understand the point of using it unless you have used one first hand. It almost makes changing the oil fun. Plus I can hook a piece of new vinyl hose on everytime I want to capture a sample and fill the container to just where I want.

I love mine...

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No, what I am saying is what is the point of using a drain valve if I still had to remove the plug to get all the oil out. If 99% of the oil still comes out, not a problem, but if 1/4-1/2 a qt remains unless the plug is pulled, ther really is no advantage.

 

[T-Keith]

I've used it before, drains too slow, hose doesn't stay where you want, but it does "work".

My two biggest problems with it are:

The filter is usually the messy part, the sure drain doesn't save any mess.

How hard is removing a plug. Takes me 5 seconds.

-T

 

[XS650]

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Originally posted by T-Keith:
I've used it before, drains too slow, hose doesn't stay where you want, but it does "work".
-T

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Along those lines....

The faster your oil runs out, the more thick stuff from the bottom of the pan runs out with it. That's the reason people who care drain their oil while it's hot, or at least real warm.

The valve has more failure modes than a simple screwed in plug. Not a big factor, but a factor none the less.

 

[Spector]

It sure does make taking a smaple easy though. Or if you just want to change out a quart it is easy.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Spector:
It sure does make taking a smaple easy though. Or if you just want to change out a quart it is easy.

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Yep. Two reasons I like it. Got the Fram on all three vehicles. I went with the Fram as it was more compact than the Fumoto and looked less likely to be accidently opened. Nice brass cover gives it a clean look (not that anybody sees it that often).

I have many times found regular drain plugs loose even though installed fairly snug. Not sure what is going on, but the one-time torque down of the Sure-Drain is nice. Get it in good and tight once and for all.

 

[Patman]

I've got them on both of my cars and I love them. The best part is that when you want to take your oil sample, there is less mess because the flow of oil isn't so fast. Sure it flows out slower, but if you're going to let the oil drain for more than 15-20min anyways, it doesn't matter, because after that point in time the same amount of oil will flow out with either this or the regular drain plug. It's just that for the first few minutes it's not flowing out as fast. So unless you're trying to finish up your oil change in less than 5min, this system will work just fine for you.

I don't use the rubber hose for mine though, just the brass piece only. It's also nice to not need to worry about loosening and tightening a drain plug too much.

 

[Seth_TJ]

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Originally posted by blupupher:
I was thinking of that, but then what is the point of using the drain valve?

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The Fumoto oil valve with the nipple is awesome.

You couldn't understand the point of using it unless you have used one first hand. It almost makes changing the oil fun. Plus I can hook a piece of new vinyl hose on everytime I want to capture a sample and fill the container to just where I want.

I love mine...