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Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
Too many people see things that are actually Made in USA but the "parent company" is foreign-based, even though they employ US-based workers. To me, if a majority of manufacturing is based here in US, and they are paying US-based paychecks, it is worth more than a "US-based company" with 85% of its manufacturing base overseas.

My parent company is based in Belgium, but has the 2nd largest manufacturing base in the industry in the US... and pays over 20k US-based jobs in an industry that has been family-driven for at least 6 generations in two plants I have worked in. Do I like the fact that the company is internationally-owned? Not really. Do I like the fact that they still employ 20k Americans at hourly rates of $21/hr+, with the average around $27/hr+? You're darn skippy, even if I dislike some of the USW and GMP tactics at my current plant. IMHO, as much as I dislike some of the European social trends, some of their "green" habits would seriously support some better manufacturing jobs in the US if people would just quit buying plastic and move back to glass. But I digress...


I remember folks around my town giving me crap about buying a Hyundai (2000 Sonata base model 2.4l I-4) at one point, "because all the money goes back to Korea" (you shoulda bought a 'Murican Car!)

guess what skippy. I bought it used, from a LOCALLY owned dealer, and financed it through a LOCALLY owned bank. pretty sure that means my money stayed local... but [censored] do I Know?

I bought the Hyundai, because it fit me, was comfortable to drive, peppy enough for my commute, the fantastic warranty, and the price was right( 1MY old, 16k mi, $10k )

drove that car for 8.5 yrs, sold around 105k mi, with a brand new subframe (rust recall). there are time i still miss that car....(how many folks can say that about a y2k econobox)
 
It's too bad intelligent conversations like this didn't happen out in the open back in the '60's and '70's when this ball got rolling.

Our (USA) quality was addressed by the "America Needs More Work People Would Put Their Name On", public service campaign.
Of course an economic discussion on quality or productivity would bore too many to death. Hey, I got Johnny Carson to watch. Don't bother me.

Asking people to "Buy American" is great. I want to but as stated above, quality rules my purchase decisions.
Toyota raised the bar...American car companies built tin with carburetor spacers.

Only those Commies on the coasts buy foreign cars. We here in the middle of the country buy American. You see more toyota and Nissan trucks now-a-days, don't you?

Too bad it took so long for the talk to get smart. It's got a way to go. Too bad it's too late.
 
On non-disposable items that you want to buy once and have them last a bunch of years, paying extra for better made US products is not that bad and probably a smart thing to do. But you are only paying the surcharge once every bunch of years.

OTOH, disposable items, say clothes where labor makes up a large chunk of the cost. Prices for US manufactured items, such as jeans, sweat clothes, t-shirts, bloomers and the like, the price differential for US manufactured items would likely be at least double, if not more than double the imported items. For items purchased frequently, folks on a tight budget will not go for the US manufactured stuff as they simply can not afford it.
 
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Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
Too many people see things that are actually Made in USA but the "parent company" is foreign-based, even though they employ US-based workers. To me, if a majority of manufacturing is based here in US, and they are paying US-based paychecks, it is worth more than a "US-based company" with 85% of its manufacturing base overseas.

My parent company is based in Belgium, but has the 2nd largest manufacturing base in the industry in the US... and pays over 20k US-based jobs in an industry that has been family-driven for at least 6 generations in two plants I have worked in. Do I like the fact that the company is internationally-owned? Not really. Do I like the fact that they still employ 20k Americans at hourly rates of $21/hr+, with the average around $27/hr+? You're darn skippy, even if I dislike some of the USW and GMP tactics at my current plant. IMHO, as much as I dislike some of the European social trends, some of their "green" habits would seriously support some better manufacturing jobs in the US if people would just quit buying plastic and move back to glass. But I digress...


I remember folks around my town giving me crap about buying a Hyundai (2000 Sonata base model 2.4l I-4) at one point, "because all the money goes back to Korea" (you shoulda bought a 'Murican Car!)

guess what skippy. I bought it used, from a LOCALLY owned dealer, and financed it through a LOCALLY owned bank. pretty sure that means my money stayed local... but [censored] do I Know?

I bought the Hyundai, because it fit me, was comfortable to drive, peppy enough for my commute, the fantastic warranty, and the price was right( 1MY old, 16k mi, $10k )

drove that car for 8.5 yrs, sold around 105k mi, with a brand new subframe (rust recall). there are time i still miss that car....(how many folks can say that about a y2k econobox)


I was given the same treatment at my first machine shop job when I bought my 2011 Forte Koup SX. One of the office guys came down with the owner to bust my balls saying "You work in an American machine shop supported by American steel mills and you buy a Korean car?!" So I looked at the pipe I was prepping for weld and said "Yeah, I work at an American machine shop, supported by American steel mills, but YOU bought Ukrainian steel to give to those American mills! Nice double standard there." Shop foreman and the owner never let him live that one down.
 
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