Things are still slowing down for Detroit:
Auto Sales
[ June 02, 2006, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: Bio-T ]
Auto Sales
[ June 02, 2006, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: Bio-T ]
The people at Honda and the other asian makers would dissagree about the good of unions. Of course we don't need sweatshops in this country. But we don't need retirees that work for 20 years and draw wages and full benefits from the company for another 35 years either. Not to mention paying Job Bank people to not work at all. Those kinds of labor practices are just not sustainable long term and we're seeing that right now.quote:
Originally posted by speedtc:
Unions have nothing to do with it. NA automakers build mostly boring cars that do not appeal to everyone while doing it with lesser quality materials and engineering. Again, unions are good for the auto industry. Do we need mechanical sweatshops?
Looing at it through a three year window makes sense. Last years deep discounts and rebates by US manufacturers just moved a good hunk of what would have been this years sales into last year.quote:
Originally posted by ALS:
How many cars have been sold in the last 3 years should be the question? Lets face it a lot people have already bought their "new" car over the last few years. How many are really in the market for a new car or truck no matter what price or incentives the manufactures put on the window sticker?
This was predicted a year ago when the employee pricing incentives were running. I remember the whiny guy on Autoline Detroit asking the GM folks about it and all they could do was gush about their upcoming new SUV's and how they'd save the day.quote:
Originally posted by XS650:
Looing at it through a three year window makes sense. Last years deep discounts and rebates by US manufacturers just moved a good hunk of what would have been this years sales into last year.quote:
Originally posted by ALS:
How many cars have been sold in the last 3 years should be the question? Lets face it a lot people have already bought their "new" car over the last few years. How many are really in the market for a new car or truck no matter what price or incentives the manufactures put on the window sticker?
There aren't enough people in this country who will buy boring cars out of a misguided sense of patriotism to keep GM etc afloat forever. They need to get more appealing products out. The quality is adequate, now they need to produce the cars that people want.
Sensitive are we? I was merely asking a question.quote:
Unions have nothing to do with it.
Sorry speedtc, your response coudn't be farther from the truth.quote:
Originally posted by speedtc:
Unions have nothing to do with it. NA automakers build mostly boring cars that do not appeal to everyone while doing it with lesser quality materials and engineering. Again, unions are good for the auto industry. Do we need mechanical sweatshops?
Uh, I'll bite - could it be that GM and Ford U.S.'s overpaid product planners believe that North American buyers are total morons and that imports are merely a passing fad?quote:
Originally posted by sprintman:
Why is it GM and Ford make sensational vehicles in Australia and GM for one exports them to 38 countries including U.S and Canada but they produce absolute cr@p in North America? I know the answer but can our N.A friends work it out?