Updated M1 FS 0w-40 - More PAO
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No, because they won't tell me.
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GTL is a Group III product with typically better VI's, available in a rather narrow range of viscosities. It, like other Group III bases, is hydrocracked and contains wax, which means it requires PPD's to achieve acceptable low temperature performance.
PAO contains absolutely no slack wax, so it doesn't require PPD's. It also has slightly better oxidation resistance. But, it is extremely dry and used by itself is hard on seals, so needs to be blended with something like AN's or POE to counteract that. The slate of PAO base oils is massive with a huge range of viscosities.
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Try telling them that you are from BITOG forum and you need all the help you can get from ExxonMobil to battle all the anti-Mobil 1 hordes.
I was thinking about an updated MSDS for North America!
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We'll see it when it's produced, They won't be giving me any sort of "insider" access
Ill check my old jug see if its different
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Both my jugs old label and new label have the same 4 digit number. Nothings changed i suspect. Not yet anyways
Both my jugs old label and new label have the same 4 digit number. Nothings changed i suspect. Not yet anyways
Again, the four-digit number is the revision number (formulation number), not a batch number. It doesn't vary from batch to batch unless the formulation is revised.
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Precisely how "old" is your old bottle according to the date code? The four-digit revision number for M1 FS 0W-40 changed. We don't know when this change happened. It could have happened more than a year ago.
Dated October 29, 2021, revision number 6294:
Dated February 2, 2018, revision number: 6117
The difference is the process by which the end products are made. The range of options and relative purities of each are consequences both of the processes themselves, and also the quality of execution of those processes.
Heres the "old" jugs i have. Their not really that old but their the old labelPrecisely how "old" is your old bottle according to the date code? The four-digit revision number for M1 FS 0W-40 changed. We don't know when this change happened. It could have happened more than a year ago.
Dated October 29, 2021, revision number 6294:
Dated February 2, 2018, revision number: 6117
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Here are some interesting observations. There are two different blending plants—Plant # 102 and Plant # 110—both blending M1 FS 0W-40 Revision # (RN) 6294. Plant # 102 is also adding a serial number or perhaps a batch number to the date/revision stamp. The serial number is absent with Plant 110.
Plant # 102 typically blends Mobil HDEO and TGMO. Plant # 110 typically blends Mobil 1 PCMO.
The date codes we have seen with Revision # 6294 so far go back as far as April 9, 2021. The change to the non-GTL Group III + higher PAO content happened earlier this year if not even earlier.
Here is a label @Krieg sent me with Plant # 110. It looks like they skip the letter I for the month code.
Plant # 102 typically blends Mobil HDEO and TGMO. Plant # 110 typically blends Mobil 1 PCMO.
The date codes we have seen with Revision # 6294 so far go back as far as April 9, 2021. The change to the non-GTL Group III + higher PAO content happened earlier this year if not even earlier.
Here is a label @Krieg sent me with Plant # 110. It looks like they skip the letter I for the month code.
I forgot i have a 12 quart box or m1 0w40. Ill check it when i get off work. I also got a quart in the back seat of my truck i can check toHere are some interesting observations. There are two different blending plants—Plant # 102 and Plant # 110—both blending M1 FS 0W-40 Revision # (RN) 6294. Plant # 102 is also adding a serial number or perhaps a batch number to the date/revision stamp. The serial number is absent with Plant 110.
Plant # 102 typically blends Mobil HDEO and TGMO. Plant # 110 typically blends Mobil 1 PCMO.
The date codes we have seen with Revision # 6294 so far go back as far as April 9, 2021. The change to the non-GTL Group III + higher PAO content happened earlier this year if not even earlier.
Here is a label @Krieg sent me with Plant # 110. It looks like they skip the letter I for the month code.
My individual quarts from late 2019 are 6294, and the jug I have from April 2020 is also.