UPDATE: 2011 F150 3.5 Ecoboost at 239,000 miles

I have an F150.

The Ford Truck forums are similar to other newer vehicles forums.

Some good reviews, then a series of nightmare problems that can't easily be solved. Whether its making or oil or using it, some engines just aren't happy. Death wobble is a common complaint, haven't visited a Ford site for a while because it was too depressing.
 
Only the horror stories make it online.
I started a thread on an F150 forum about a friends 2016 2.7 ecoboost that is racking up (closing in on 400,000) miles because I get sick of hearing the keyboard jockeys running a particular engine down based on some YouTube video they saw 3 minutes of or because they thought they read somewhere that that engine was radioactive. Yeah, basing your buying decision simply on what "your buddy" experienced kinda makes sense, but he only has one. "They" made more than that. You seldom see where somebody posted that they simply like their truck or car and it's been a joy.
 
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Originally Posted by DavidJones
Only the horror stories make it online.
I started a thread on an F150 forum about a friends 2016 2.7 ecoboost that is racking up (closing in on 400,000) miles because I get sick of hearing the keyboard jockeys running a particular engine down based on some YouTube video they saw 3 minutes of or because they thought they read somewhere that that engine was radioactive. Yeah, basing your buying decision simply on what "your buddy" experienced kinda makes sense, but he only has one. "They" made more than that. You seldom see where somebody posted that they simply like their truck or car and it's been a joy.

That 2016 has almost 400k? That's 100K per year average.
Does the ignition ever get shut off?
 
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by DavidJones
Only the horror stories make it online.
I started a thread on an F150 forum about a friends 2016 2.7 ecoboost that is racking up (closing in on 400,000) miles because I get sick of hearing the keyboard jockeys running a particular engine down based on some YouTube video they saw 3 minutes of or because they thought they read somewhere that that engine was radioactive. Yeah, basing your buying decision simply on what "your buddy" experienced kinda makes sense, but he only has one. "They" made more than that. You seldom see where somebody posted that they simply like their truck or car and it's been a joy.

That 2016 has almost 400k? That's 100K per year average.
Does the ignition ever get shut off?




It's possible if driven 300-400 miles a day, 5 or 6 days a week. I know parts delivery drivers that did that and that was decades ago.
 
Originally Posted by DavidJones
Only the horror stories make it online.
I started a thread on an F150 forum about a friends 2016 2.7 ecoboost that is racking up (closing in on 400,000) miles because I get sick of hearing the keyboard jockeys running a particular engine down based on some YouTube video they saw 3 minutes of or because they thought they read somewhere that that engine was radioactive. Yeah, basing your buying decision simply on what "your buddy" experienced kinda makes sense, but he only has one. "They" made more than that. You seldom see where somebody posted that they simply like their truck or car and it's been a joy.


Ya when known issues and ridiculous design issues causing obscene repair costs, it's always the "you only hear the horror stories online" from owners of said vehicle on here. And probably had these so called "only online horror story" that are well documented. Because they can't man up and tell the truth, people like you who pull this crap are in denial, or must have had your truck specifically for you by ford and they designed it to bulletproof and ad them redesign it for you so when the known issues strike you do not have to pay for any repair bills.

So overblown that parts of known issues are on back order. Next your going to tell me the 2v was best engine ever made.
 
No, the 2v was a good engine in it's time though.

And the "known issues" with back ordered parts on a 2.7 are?
 
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Originally Posted by pbm
I actually think Ford made better 4 cylinder engines than GM.

Pinto vs. Vega....the Pinto engines 1.6, 2.0 and 2.3 were excellent...too bad the rest of the car wasn't....the Vega engine sucked.

Fiesta vs. Chevette....again the Fiesta engines were better IMO

Escort vs. Cavalier....the 1.9 Escort was a good engine with a proclivity to drop valve seats...the 2.2 Cavalier was a strong engine but very agricultural sounding...I give the nod to Chevy.

Focus (Duratech) vs. Various GM's using the Ecotec...SInce Ford's engine is a Mazda design and GMs is an Opel design...this isn't a true Ford vs. GM comparo...but I'd take the
Duratech since it didn't have any timing chain issues.

The Opel/Daewoo designed small turbo's vs. Ford's small turbo's...close....I'd avoid both (except the 2.0 turbo in the Focus ST seems really good)...


IMHO, the GM 2.5L "Iron Duke" was an outstanding 4-cyl. Nary a problem in a 200,000-mile, Tech IV engine in an S-10. She wasn't fast, but was reliable.
 
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Originally Posted by 77Se7en
Originally Posted by DavidJones
Only the horror stories make it online.
I started a thread on an F150 forum about a friends 2016 2.7 ecoboost that is racking up (closing in on 400,000) miles because I get sick of hearing the keyboard jockeys running a particular engine down based on some YouTube video they saw 3 minutes of or because they thought they read somewhere that that engine was radioactive. Yeah, basing your buying decision simply on what "your buddy" experienced kinda makes sense, but he only has one. "They" made more than that. You seldom see where somebody posted that they simply like their truck or car and it's been a joy.

That 2016 has almost 400k? That's 100K per year average.
Does the ignition ever get shut off?


It's in commercial service. 2,000 mi a week is likely average for him.
 
I wouldn't say this proves anything with respect to durability. I asked my sales person about the 2019 3.5s having timing chain problems, and he said honestly they wouldn't know because 90% of their new truck sales are 2.7s, and the only trucks to get the 3.5 are basically the Limited/Platinum and Raptors. They generally don't order 3.5s for XL-XLT-Lariat unless it is a customer's special order. But the 2019s I've seen/heard with chain issues were the Raptors (sometimes going in 2-3 times under 80k miles).
 
170 ci Slant Six Mopar

240 ci Inline Six Ford

Buddy said, "They don't make enough power to hurt themselves".

Might be some truth to that now that I think about it.
 
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Originally Posted by super20dan
tundra only safe bet in trucks.


It was. When the 4.7 was the big engine. But Toyota introduced the true full-size to fix the problem of people being able to keep the truck to long.

Tacoma became the only sure thing. It took a while but Toyota has now "fixed" it too.


Now they are just like all rest. Make sure the parts last the minimum 150,000 mi design life only.
 
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Idk about the newer ones but can attest to that 4.7. That was a stout and built motor that could burn gas all day long in the heat and a/c and too much trailer behind it. I'd be sick of hearing it wail between 3000 and 4500 rpm all day in the mountains but it simply wouldn't stop, or hardly age. Never consumed any oil, even driven like that. 5 spd aisin trans behind it kept up with it too.

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Originally Posted by metroplex
I wouldn't say this proves anything with respect to durability. I asked my sales person about the 2019 3.5s having timing chain problems, and he said honestly they wouldn't know because 90% of their new truck sales are 2.7s, and the only trucks to get the 3.5 are basically the Limited/Platinum and Raptors. They generally don't order 3.5s for XL-XLT-Lariat unless it is a customer's special order. But the 2019s I've seen/heard with chain issues were the Raptors (sometimes going in 2-3 times under 80k miles).


XLT 302A 3.5EB Max Tow is a very common combo here. Dealer could sell more but Ford won't give him an allotment for more 3.55 Trucks. The 2.7EB is common in the STX, XLT and the occasional Lariat 501A 4x2. 5.0 V8 is almost impossible. Dealer might have 200 Trucks on lot but will have maybe twelve V8's. Says he could easily sell four times as many if Ford would just give him the allotment.
 
Originally Posted by metroplex
I wouldn't say this proves anything with respect to durability. I asked my sales person about the 2019 3.5s having timing chain problems, and he said honestly they wouldn't know because 90% of their new truck sales are 2.7s, and the only trucks to get the 3.5 are basically the Limited/Platinum and Raptors. They generally don't order 3.5s for XL-XLT-Lariat unless it is a customer's special order. But the 2019s I've seen/heard with chain issues were the Raptors (sometimes going in 2-3 times under 80k miles).


XLT 302A 3.5EB Max Tow is a very common combo here. Dealer could sell more but Ford won't give him an allotment for more 3.55 Trucks. The 2.7EB is common in the STX, XLT and the occasional Lariat 501A 4x2. 5.0 V8 is almost impossible. Dealer might have 200 Trucks on lot but will have maybe twelve V8's. Says he could easily sell four times as many if Ford would just give him the allotment.
IMHO, that truck 5.0L V8 is the engine to have. Hopefully, that in the F-150, or the 7.3L in a 2021 or 2022 F-350, will be my next new long-term pickup. Ford's dual-fuel, high-pressure direct injection (DI) and lower-pressure port injection (PI) is significant tech!

I've plainly had enough with GM GDI engine issues.

My last acceptable GM product is my now older 2006 5.3L Silverado. Even it has had its own troubles. Not many, but some.
 
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Yes, great job Ford.
Drilling holes in the intercooler to get rid of the "condensation" (which is mostly oil) as it builds up, is perfectly normal.
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Exactly. I wouldn't be bragging about Ford's engine durability. I recently talked to a lady in the Publix parking lot who was stranded after her Ecoboost Escape wouldn't start because it overheated from consuming all of its coolant. Luckily, it was her car company car and was still under warranty and this was the SECOND time it had happened to her. I told her cars aren't supposed to drink their coolant. We both laughed.



My Chevy Cruze drank coolant....it also gave off a coolant smell that was sickening.

I avoided the 1.5T when I bought our 2016 Escape and went for the 2.5 NA instead. The 2.5 (and all of the Duratechs) are excellent engines.

My parents are running a 2004 Taurus with the 3.0 Duratec. 80-100 mile round trip every day. It’s just over 355k miles and still going strong. Original transmission, no engine work other than a flex plate killed by a bad starter and basic maintenance. Still returning fantastic oil samples. She intends to have the transmission rebuilt when it dies to see her through retirement without purchasing another vehicle.
 
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IMHO, that truck 5.0L V8 is the engine to have. Hopefully, that in the F-150, or the 7.3L in a 2021 or 2022 F-350, will be my next new long-term pickup. Ford's dual-fuel, high-pressure direct injection (DI) and lower-pressure port injection (PI) is significant tech!

I've plainly had enough with GM GDI engine issues.

My last acceptable GM product is my now older 2006 5.3L Silverado. Even it has had its own troubles. Not many, but some.

I've have owned products from all three of the USA majors over the last 25 years and honestly despite people's claims I've found them all to be pretty dependable. They all have their issues. Silverado self uninstalling dash, Ram Clock Springs and F150 Throttle Bodies. I'm not sure the 2018+ 5.0 GDI is any more issue free than the EB. My experience says the 2.7EB is pretty rock solid but even it has the occasional leaky oil pan.
 
My parents are running a 2004 Taurus with the 3.0 Duratec. 80-100 mile round trip every day. It’s just over 355k miles and still going strong..
Definitely considering the Duratec 60 for my next car.
 

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GM 2.0T Ecotec VS Ford 2.0 Ecoboost which one will you guys pick on here??

Been a member of the Focus ST (2.0T) and Gen6 Mustang (2.3T) forums for a while. There's a LOT of guys on these forums able to say they're over 100K miles and they haven't had any issues. Today is the 2nd time in a matter of days I've read stories of Ford's smaller Ecoboosts drinking coolant, so maybe stay at 2.0 or above and you'll be good.
 
I've have owned products from all three of the USA majors over the last 25 years and honestly despite people's claims I've found them all to be pretty dependable. They all have their issues. Silverado self uninstalling dash, Ram Clock Springs and F150 Throttle Bodies. I'm not sure the 2018+ 5.0 GDI is any more issue free than the EB. My experience says the 2.7EB is pretty rock solid but even it has the occasional leaky oil pan.
I hope you're wrong! :D
 
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