UOA Honda Vs AMSOIL

[hotrod66]

Hi,

I am a new member and I am posting my oil results from my 2008 Honda Ridgeline. I have always used Honda oil filters for the 4 years I have had it. I recently tried an AMSOIL filter and the results seem much better. I wanted so see what others thought. This is with regular non-synthetic oil. I plan to try AMSOIL synthetic on my next oil change. Please note that I am an AMSOIL dealer and I was just doing this as an experiment for my own knowledge.

Both oil changes were after 11000km (6800 miles) as suggested by the maintenance indicator. Driving habits are basically the same. Analysis by Blackstone.

AMSOIL HONDA
Aluminum 6 11
Chromium 1 2
Iron 19 47
Copper 3 4
Lead 0 1
Tin 1 2
Molybdenum 1 2
Nickel 0 0
Manganese 0 1
Silver 0 0
Titanium 0 0
Potassium 0 2
Boron 19 3
Silicon 18 22
Sodium 118 249
Calcium 1801 1403
Magnesium 12 9
Phosphorus 582 591
Zinc 641 762
Barium 0 0

Viscocity SUS 50.2 48.9
Viscocity cST 7.32 6.92
Flashpoint 335 370
Fuel % 1.0 Antifreeze % 0 0
Water % 0 0
Insolubles % 0.3 0.4
TBN 2.1

 

[hotrod66]

This is not what it looked like before I posted it.

 

[Hokiefyd]

It's hard to compare filter performance when it at least appears that the oil also changed. The concentrations of additives appear to be different between the two samples (Sodium, Calcium, Zinc). Was the motor oil the same with both samples?

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: hotrod66
This is not what it looked like before I posted it.


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AMSOIL HONDA

Aluminum 6 11

Chromium 1 2

Iron 19 47

Copper 3 4

Lead 0 1

Tin 1 2

Molybdenum 1 2

Nickel 0 0

Manganese 0 1

Silver 0 0

Titanium 0 0

Potassium 0 2

Boron 19 3

Silicon 18 22

Sodium 118 249

Calcium 1801 1403

Magnesium 12 9

Phosphorus 582 591

Zinc 641 762

Barium 0 0



Viscocity SUS 50.2 48.9

Viscocity cST 7.32 6.92

Flashpoint 335 370

Fuel % 1.0
Antifreeze % 0 0

Water % 0 0

Insolubles % 0.3 0.4

TBN 2.1

 

[hotrod66]

Hopefully this works:

AMSOIL HONDA
Aluminum 6 11
Chromium 1 2
Iron 19 47
Copper 3 4
Lead 0 1 
Tin 1 2
Molybdenum 1 2
Nickel 0 0
Manganese 0 1
Silver 0 0
Titanium 0 0
Potassium 0 2
Boron 19 3
Silicon 18 22
Sodium 118 249
Calcium 1801 1403
Magnesium 12 9
Phosphorus 582 591
Zinc 641 762
Barium 0 0

Viscocity SUS 50.2 48.9
Viscocity cST 7.32 6.92
Flashpoint 335 370
Fuel % 1.0  Antifreeze % 0 0
Water % 0 0
Insolubles % 0.3 0.4
TBN 2.1

 

[Smcatub]

You need to close your opening tag by putting in a closing tag with a forward slash - [/code]

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Like this - I have both the opening tag and a closing tag with the forward-slash as demonstrated above

 

[gregk24]

Interesting. I have never seen a Honda filter increase, or reduce wear. Were the oils the same? During what season were these OCI's? Im not convinced the filter lead to the higher wear.

 

[Nate1979]

You need much more data using each oil or filter to draw a conclusion of one performance vs another.

 

[JerryBob]

What type of oil did you use (grade and brand)? Was one UOA done in winter, and the other in summer? Maybe cold starts could account for the high Iron?

In your Canadian climate, I'd be experimenting with viscosities (e.g. 0w20 syn) before I worried about filters.

 

[hotrod66]

I believe they were both 5W20 Castrol oil.

Thanks for all of the feedback.

Rod.

 

[hotrod66]

Both were a mix of summer/winter.

Rod.

 

[zpinch]

Better filtration, cleaner oil, less additive depletion, happier, longer lasting engine.

 

[GM4LIFE]

Amsoil filters are pretty much the best of the best next to Fram's Ultra filters.

 

[zpinch]

I would like to see some head to head single pass particle count efficiency tests (independent of course) of amsoil EAO vs. Fram Ultra. As well as time test with dirt holding capacity vs. efficiency over time... I think EAO's are still the best filters for long OCI, just IMO. But I could be wrong.