Tracing internal coolant leak..

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OK, a used oil analysis confirms glycol in my motor (3.8 V6 in a '99 Dodge Grand Caravan). I can't see any external leak or seepage. Is there any way to figure out where the coolant is leaking into the oil from? I'm guessing it's either the intake gasket, or the head gasket. I had an intake gasket leak on another of the same motor, but I could see it leaking externally...not so with this motor.
 
It's all a guessing game until you get it under the watchful eye of a good tech. Headgasket leaks may show some crazy amounts of steam out the exhaust that wouldn't happen with an intake gasket. That's all I can add! Good luck.
 
Headgasket leaks also cause things like the coolant recovery bottle overflowing even long before the engine is fully heated. This occurs as the added pressurized gasses leak into the water jacket from the compression and power strokes (in 4 stroke language)and overcome the psi setting on your radiator cap.

Then when you shut down the engine, the pressurized cooling system forces coolant into your now dormant combustion chamber. If the car sits for a while, this coolant will slowly leak past your piston rings into your crankcase. If you start up your engine shortly thereafter, the coolant will be blown out your exhaust.

You can check for a leaking headgasket by taking your van to a good radiator shop. They have a device that they can place over your open radiator cap while the van is running to chemically "sniff" for hydrocarbons in your coolant.

Alternatively, you can pull all your spark plugs and look for one or two that look dramatically different than the others. If you're leaking alot of coolant, people have diagnosed a bad headgasket by pulling all of the spark plugs after a hot shut-down and then holding a pieces of colored of paper (that easily shows presence of a liquid) over all plug holes. Then disconnect the coil from the distributor (so there's no spark) and crank it over. If water spray comes out of a specific spark plug hole, you'll know which of the two headgaskets to replace (in a v6 or v8). When the ECU sees no spark, it should disable the injectors, so you'll know it's not gas.

A compression test could also help diagnose a bad headgasket.
 
Jim, do you think those GM coolant pellets will seal a head gasket leak?

Also, do you think a leaking intake gasket would cause the coolant recovery bottle to overflow, or only a head gasket leak? I'm curious now, as I've noticed when I fill the recovery bottle to the MIN line when the engine is cold, I find it not overflowing, but rising quite a bit higher than I'm used to when the van is running.
 
remove your radiator cap and start your engine. look for air bubbles and or the coolant suddenly starting to flow out of the radiator. if either happens, its probably a head gasket. if not, its probably a intake gasket leak. if you suspect a head gasket, take it to a shop and have the do a full compression/leakdown test.
 
RCY,

I really doubt the pellets would seal a head gasket leak. There's just too much pressure caused by the internal combustion. They might help with an intake manifold leak, but it's not a good remedy for a headgasket problem.
 
Interesting, I have a Camry that first developed a head gasket oil leak which I was living with as it is a a short commute car. then it started sucking up coolant overnight and I assumed the head gasket was the culprit. In any event as a last resort I tried the Barrs leak for the coolant about 2 months ago. the coolant leak has stopped (oil leak I can live with) and it appears to be running well. Who knows how long this will last but as a last resort (rebuilt engine was my other choice due to high mileage on this one) try a coolant system stop leak. Head gaskets on a V6 are very expensive to repair and once they get in there the bill can skyrocket to $1500-$2500
 
Try the pellets or Barr's equivalent which is pre crushed along with at least a coolant drop or exchange. Shorter oic and another UOA - good luck.
 
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