I answered the question more accurately. When powered by a fuel burning plant, EV’s go fewer miles per BTU consumed, than do economy cars or common hybrids.
Toyota CEO Claims EVs Worsen co2-emissions, Pushes Back on Proposed ICE Bans
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Market yes, government no. Governments seldom are responsible for the consequences of their choices.
Totally
Its a very probable scenario that they decided "not to pursue at this time."
They do a great job of making real money by selling a great line of vehicles that work and last.
Making money on BEV's while bridging all the implied promises is likely to be a tough scenario.
The Model T was the first affordable car, because Henry Ford wanted his workers (on the $ saving new assembly lines) to be able to afford one. ICE engines were around since the 1880s, Karl Benz invented one of the first in 1885, and expensive electric cars with limited range also existed before the Model T. Ford definitely started the modern age of cars, though.
I might be wrong, but I would be really surprised if this were true.
Toyota only buys into tech it can vertically integrate and absorb. They also strongly focus on their products for domestic Japan before worrying about foreign market trends.
Toyota is stubborn about getting as many years out of its NIMH factory as possible, hence why we continue to see NIMH end up in a variety of products all over the world since Toyota hasn’t gotten its money’s worth yet.
This is similar to the 4 speed they used for 40 years.
Lithium tech, fabs and mines are all staked out and Toyota has been left behind due to its normal suppliers moving from small HEV batteries to large prismatics.
Unless Toyo can secure mines, fabs, partners and most importantly get the profitability they want they will set out while others build.
Solid state is like years or even decades off, Toyota likely sees its own infrastructure good enough and has no interest in EVs until things change
Honda lost its way when it said it would never sell a small car in the US ever again.
They were bit by paying the cost of being leaders in their field before things went mainstream , now they just borrow tech from others (erm Clarity = Voltec) and make oversized comfort vehicles at higher prices.
I think when they lost their way they stopped realizing their niche vehicles although no longer big sellers is what made their brand and brought the enthusiasm to Honda owners.
Ah well
Agree with some of your comments. The V6 in our GS and RX is not the latest tech but is dead nuts reliable.
Disagree with your Toyota EV and battery comments. Toyota Solid State Battery
There is much more information out there. North America and especially CA is a huge market for Toyota. CA loves hybrids (which Toyota excells in) and EVs. CA is the leader of North America; Toyota tests their new cars there.
We will just have to wait and see. All good...
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EV technology isn't mature yet, and they have yet to be as reliable as Toyota. No EV still has its full range after 200k
They have a tiny one, and they made a deal with GM to license or use their "Ultiam" technology.
The key word in all of that is China. It is the worlds largest automobile market and EVs are becoming a big part of that.
BYD, while they are Chinese are IMO a second to Tesla for batteries. They did pioneer LiFeP chemistry for their batteries that promises to be safer than Li-Ion or Li-polymer chemistry. Their buses have given the 3 dominant North American makers(New Flyer/Gillig/NovaBus) a wake-up call.
Toyota did announce a partnership with BYD for Chinese-market BEVs. But, BYD also makes cars in China.
Without government you would not be writing this as internet would not exist. It is astonishing how many people who swear in markets and blame government do not know (not "do not understand," but don't know) basic tenets of capitalism and what Adam Smith preached; No government=no capitalism.
But, but... all these 43% efficient gasoline engines, 60% efficient natural gas plants and solid state expectations
are to be commercially exploited and market capitalized! Don't undermine, edyvw. Without market there'd be no long and no short selling in need of an internet. Not even sheeple probably.
Who is this Adam Smith, did Elon Musk ask him for advice on Bitcoin now?
Korean battery majors add speed in solid-state battery roadmap - Pulse by Maeil Business News Korea
South Korean battery majors are adding speed to development of solid-state battery to ensure they keep the lead in battery production after Toyota announced to debut the first prototype EV equipped with a solid-state batt
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are to be commercially exploited and market capitalized! Don't undermine, edyvw. Without market there'd be no long and no short selling in need of an internet. Not even sheeple probably.
Who is this Adam Smith, did Elon Musk ask him for advice on Bitcoin now?
If there was no government, Elon Musk would probably follow steps of Shia LaBeouf.
Back before the pandemic, I asked my wanna-be hippy co-worker if we were going to take his bougie coal burner (a Tesla 3) to lunch. I thought he was going to cry or hit me or both. 
My question is how many more Teslas can get plugged into California's power grid before it burns itself out? Three? Four? With rolling blackouts happening on a regular basis, it would seem obvious that we can't replace more than a tiny fraction of the existing national automobile fleet with the electrical production and distribution capacity we have. My WAG would be that replacing well shy of 10% of existing ICE cars with plugins would overwhelm it completely.
My question is how many more Teslas can get plugged into California's power grid before it burns itself out? Three? Four? With rolling blackouts happening on a regular basis, it would seem obvious that we can't replace more than a tiny fraction of the existing national automobile fleet with the electrical production and distribution capacity we have. My WAG would be that replacing well shy of 10% of existing ICE cars with plugins would overwhelm it completely.
That’s why utilities push time of use
Our existing Grid can support 50% EVs (not including HD equipment) if the cars charge during off peak hours
That doesn't feel right to me. I'd have to see the numbers from non-political sources. It also assumes that everything in the system can maintain close to 100% output 24/7, which I sorta doubt. Plus, there's the near 100% increase in coal, NG, and nuclear fuel consumption (more infrastructure).
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