There is no cap for SL. The phosphorous limit only applies to the GF-3 certification.quote:
Originally posted by Tommy:
I think what Bob is referring to is that Amsoil exceeds the allowable cap on phosphorous for SL oils.
There is no cap for SL. The phosphorous limit only applies to the GF-3 certification.quote:
Originally posted by Tommy:
I think what Bob is referring to is that Amsoil exceeds the allowable cap on phosphorous for SL oils.
Politics and money is what it really comes down to.quote:
Originally posted by Pablo:
Amsoil can easily pass the tests.
My guess as to why not just get the easy certification: They do not want to be bound by the other (political) portions of API, nor do they want to give API the formulation.
As others have mentioned, 50 cent Autozone oil passes the specs. Would you use that in your car just because it's blessed by the API?quote:
Originally posted by XHVI:
Wouldn't the BEST way to show that they've passed all the API tests be to actually get API certification?quote:
Originally posted by Pablo:
Bob - with all due repect please tell me what portion of any API(sequence) tests any of Amsoil's motor oil fails?
As I stated in another thread, there is something wrong when the (supposedly) "best" synthetic oil avaialbe is not measured or approved against the industry standard battery of tests that the other syns on the market are.
Mobil 1 is the only full synthetic that carries API certification that I know of. Why is it that Neo, Redline Amsoil and yes, even Shaeffer has chosen not to have their full synthetic oils API-certified?quote:
As I stated in another thread, there is something wrong when the (supposedly) "best" synthetic oil avaialbe is not measured or approved against the industry standard battery of tests that the other syns on the market are.
It's "John Birch Society" answers like this (and you see lots of them on the various Amsoil web sites) that do a disservice to the product. If it's as good as Amsoil claims, it should be a small matter to officialy pass this battery of "minimalist" tests and get the API certification. The fact that the XL7500 oil IS API certified means that the company is not opposed to getting in bed with the API.quote:
Originally posted by Pablo:
Amsoil can easily pass the tests.
My guess as to why not just get the easy certification: They do not want to be bound by the other (political) portions of API, nor do they want to give API the formulation.
If you're talking about the various "snake oil" syn companies you see on the Internet, I'd say those simply can't afford to run the tests.quote:
Originally posted by Tommy:
Again, this is not only an Amsoil thing, there are many more companies that have also chosen the path of no certification - have they all done so for this same reason?
Ok grasshopper, let me show you the way....quote:
Originally posted by Pablo:
Bob - with all due repect please tell me what portion of any API(sequence) tests any of Amsoil's motor oil fails?
I consider API minimilist tests. Finally they are raising the bar a tad, but Amsoil 10W-30 just went through the GM V6 engine test at three times the normal duration with no problems.
EDIT> The voiding warranty thing is also a myth. [/URL]
Bob, isn't the Schaeffer full syn the ONLY oil marketed by Schaeffer that isn't API certified?quote:
Originally posted by BOBISTHEOILGUY:
The market doesn't demand our full synth therefore no need to certify. Like I stated before, I have not once sold one drop of full synth motor oil, just the blends and minerals.
YES AMSOIL has been (key word) independently tested to SL.quote:
Just curious because their bottle states "SL" on it but they in fact have not tested to it. Their bottle also states that it meets GM4718M, but have they tested to it?