Tire Traction Issue?

Seems about right to me. On occasion, this has happened in just about every rear wheel drive vehicle I've ever owned in left hand turns. Especially with high torque engines and light rear end. This will typically happen when waiting for an opening in traffic and then...crossing traffic!
And often on dry road as well if applying too much throttle in that turn. My Firebird is terrible at this. And when it's wet, I need to be especially careful.
 
First, some OE tires have traction shortcomings. This maybe one of them.

A test: The next time you know that the tail wagging is going to happen (or just after it happens), stop and gently take off. Try harder and harder accelerations until you get a feel for where that limit is. You may have to back up to get in the same exact spot.

Then try a spot further down the road. This should tell you if it is just that spot in the road or it's the tires.

Just a reminder to those who posted: OE tires are unique to the vehicle. The same make/model on a different vehicle is a completely different tire. That's because OE tires are built to the vehicle manufacturer's specs. If the tire was built to the tire manufacturer's specs, they would behave more or less the same regardless of size. Not so with a one-off specs for the vehicle manufacturer.

And most of those OE specs are for fuel economy (rolling resistance), and treadwear and/or traction is sacrificed to get it. Sometimes they go too far.
 
This is one ofd the reasons were were eager to get rid of the OE Goodyear Eagle tires on our RAM 1500, they were downright dangerous in the wet. The Conti's are a massive improvement.
 
A test: The next time you know that the tail wagging is going to happen (or just after it happens), stop and gently take off. Try harder and harder accelerations until you get a feel for where that limit is. You may have to back up to get in the same exact spot.

Then try a spot further down the road. This should tell you if it is just that spot in the road or it's the tires.
I like @CapriRacer's test suggestion.

That spot further down the road should try to be a left turn on a slight hill also if possible.

I did that basic test scenario with my kids in the snow with all seasons and then true winter tires on a snowy day (it take 15 minutes to swap rims/tires). They got to experience the different traction available for start/stop/turn on their own vehicle.
 
Rear wheel drive with little weight in rear, tire type and surface condition definitely play a role. Every rear-wheel-drive car I've driven had similar issues in some situations. In the 80's, rear wheel drive vehicles were always getting stuck in the snow, especially muscle cars, pickups and station wagons.
 
It is simply the paint mostly, and the smooth blacktop. Happens all the time to me when I cross a white line leaving a light, with a little skip.
 
It is simply the paint mostly, and the smooth blacktop. Happens all the time to me when I cross a white line leaving a light, with a little skip.

It was wet today and I tried feeling what it was like in a parking lot with the parking stripes. I know my fingertips aren't quite like rubber, but I could immediately feel a substantial loss of friction over the paint.
 
It is simply the paint mostly, and the smooth blacktop. Happens all the time to me when I cross a white line leaving a light, with a little skip.
Just to be clear: the slide-out occurs [halfway] thru the turn, well beyond any area with paint.
 
FWIW, I had similar problems with a RWD car and BFGoodrich Touring T/As and Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS. The car would be fine in the dry, and in the case with the Potenzas, it hooked up nicely if I gave it a bit of throttle. But in the wet, on road markings and Botts dots, I could feel the rear end wind up a bit and then go if I was greedy off the start. Never happen with the two sets of Michelins I put on it(Primacy MXV4 and Pilot Exalto A/S) and a set of Contis until it was down to the bars.
 
Just to be clear: the slide-out occurs [halfway] thru the turn, well beyond any area with paint.

Looks like a ton of overspray there. It’s likely a combination of things. Freshly applied asphalt can be really slippery when wet since it’s made of petroleum. They can literally have little oil slicks, especially when wet.

I was driving up a steep hill in San Francisco recently and freaked out with another car less than five feet behind me at a red light. It was wet and my (frankly old) tires slipped and never really got good traction until I reached the top. I was hoping not to backslide with someone following me way too close. I suspect the road was kind of oily on top of those lousy tires.
 
I would agree it's a combination of things. I wouldn't say that the uphill is part of the issue - if anything the uphill should actually "help" you understeer a bit as the weight gets shifted to the rear a bit. Is the lane you're turning into off-cambered a bit to the right? If so, I'd say that's the culprit along with the lack of traction of asphalt - especially wet asphalt. The OEM tires probably don't help but off-cambered turns are definitely have you sliding around at a much lower speed.
 
We have an off camber roundabout here, it uses concrete wit lots of pebbles on the surface. Traction is very low when it's wet.

Just a couple of days ago I was driving it with the rest of the family in the car and felt the car understeering as I turned off, so backed off the accelerator a bit and got some oversteer so was balancing that till I was off. No comment from anyone so doubt they realised what was going on. when I was off the roundabout but not off the concrete and not quite straight went back on the throttle and esc went into a frenzy... both front tyres were spinning

Speeds were low, 25-30 mph...
 
“Mechanical“ that still has clutching ? My FF gear oil was erratic in a 2005 GMC (take offs from a corner)
… switch to M1 75W90 and the most noticeable change in all my years of lockers. Always wondered if the factory put the wrong oil in. I have also experienced a complete gear oil break down (Pennzoil) and lost a rear end

Is FF in truck ?
No, the rear-end has Redline 75W90 with no additional additive. Surprisingly, it does not chatter.

how old? because my 3yo cc+ skid a few times in autumn wet roads...
About 2 years old.

Perhaps it's a limited slip (posi) rear that is really not slipping at all at that point of the turn?
Hmm, the rear end is currently filled with Redline 75W90 without any additional additive. I do not observe any chatter, but then again, I am not exactly experienced in detecting rear-end chatter.

Stellantis specs 5 oz of FM additive for the rear end, which is a 5.5% concentration by volume, when using their fluid.

Redline told me that their fluid contains 5% FM. Could this rear end possibly need just a little bit more FM?
 
IDK exactly but, I wouldn't think it would hurt the rear differential by adding more LS/FM additive(friction modifier). It's not having enough(when required) that can hurt. I've used gear oil(75W90/80W90) w/LS/FM adds in non LS Diff's w/o issues. So, I wouldn't think that adding a bit more is going to hurt. However, I am not qualified specialist in this area.
 
In my experience, all but one set of Goodyear tires I’ve had got crummy on wet stuff while plenty of tread was left. Did you say you had forterra tires? My 2008 Jeep had those, and they were somewhere in the end of the pack, in mid-life wet traction. Mine hydroplaned badly and I swapped them out with about 30k on them. Guys in Atlanta were driving 60mph in the rain and I was sliding at 45.

the other thing is you mentioned your truck has an lsd. My last truck did too. It was 2wd and the lsd was subtle but very effective. One drawback is, in a wet turn, if the inside wheel spins, all the torque transfers to the outside tire and it spins too. So if there’s enough push to spin one, both break free and the back kicks out. In a gen 1 tundra, slightly smaller than most half tons, it was maneuverable and I could control the drift. In a real full-size, nuh-uh.

i didn’t realize how much work the LSD did until I traded it for a truck with an open axle. The unweighted wheel simply spins and the truck doesn’t go. That lsd was super useful, BUT added complexity in the wet.

the BEST wet weather ATs I’ve driven are the continental contitrac ATs, hands down. My current yoko g015 try, but they just can’t match the conti’s.
 
the BEST wet weather ATs I’ve driven are the continental contitrac ATs, hands down. My current yoko g015 try, but they just can’t match the conti’s.
A couple friends had the Contitrac's and had the exact opposite experience. Couldn't wait to get rid of them. TireRack has them at the bottom of the Highway all season charts

TerrainContact AT gets pretty good ratings reviews.

Contitrac I recall used to say AT, now just says Contitrac?
 
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