Time for a new car?

question for the everyone who’s replaced the TB/pulleys on Honda’s: do tensioner and idler pulley bolts need to be changed or can they be reused? Alison TB kit doesn’t come with the new bolts, does it?
 
question for the everyone who’s replaced the TB/pulleys on Honda’s: do tensioner and idler pulley bolts need to be changed or can they be reused? Alison TB kit doesn’t come with the new bolts, does it?
Idler pulley bolt has thread locker and is supposed to be replaced each time; a lot of people clean off the threadlocker and use a liquid threadlocker. Aisin kit does not include the bolt.

Aisin kit will work but is a downgrade from OE. The water pump will likely make a "warbling sound" when hot since the casting is inferior (and different) from the OE pump. I have had one Aisin hydraulic tensioner fail on me as well. YMMV.
 
Idler pulley bolt has thread locker and is supposed to be replaced each time; a lot of people clean off the threadlocker and use a liquid threadlocker. Aisin kit does not include the bolt.

Aisin kit will work but is a downgrade from OE. The water pump will likely make a "warbling sound" when hot since the casting is inferior (and different) from the OE pump. I have had one Aisin hydraulic tensioner fail on me as well. YMMV.

I've never replaced the bolt(s), at almost 300k on the Accord and 178k on the Acura.

Also, I've never noticed the weird sounds that @The Critic has noticed. Lucky? Different pump? No idea, I trust what he says, just never had that issue out of the TKH002.
 
Also, the newer Honda's with GDI spec a different belt than the older ones. Aisin continues to use the same belt.
 
A friend of mine drives ‘18 Ridgeline, right at 96K miles right now, so we decided to change the timing belts together and ordered Aisin kits. He calls me today and asks to bring my scanner, says transmission error popped up. So I got it scanned, permanent P0741, time for a new torque converter. He got the truck with 65k on the clock, did a couple of drain and fills, never had VCM disabled. Called Honda, taking it in for diagnostics tomorrow and likely torque converter replacement under the TSB.
 
Keep your civic. That's your enjoyment vehicle. There isn't much in life you can say is yours and you enjoy.

Keep the pilot unless it gives you trouble. But it's only at 87k miles.
That is the plan. Getting tools for upcoming TB job, going through Honda manual, watching some videos. Terrified but excited. Wish me luck
 
This car needs a timing belt. There is nothing wrong with the Aisin kit. I doubt that it requires new links. You are currently changing oil as early as 70% on the maintenance minder. You can always go 5,000 miles on oil. A new car would not be one iota more reliable, and Honda J Series engines. Go 200k plus all the time. If the car breaks, fix it. You are moving into the economic sweet spot. Keep on trucking
 
Sure, new car will have warranty. No concerns with reliability? No so certain on that one - maybe yes, maybe no. I’m not in the position to change the car every year. I don’t think that anyone who’s financially in a position to do so, should be changing the cars every year anyway.
I am talking every 3 years.
 
We can trade, my 15 Grand Caravan for your Pilot. It goes without saying you will need to cough up some cash for trading up😉
Your wife will love it, guaranteed.
I’ll have to kindly pass on such a generous offer
 
I’ll have to kindly pass on such a generous offer
It was worth a shot...

Seriously though, I believe most of your concerns about reliability is in your head. You have a perfectly reliable vehicle that's been well taken care of. The chances of it leaving your wife stranded are probably very similar to a new vehicle. Rust is a big contributor to issues popping out due to age, but you don't have this problem in Texas.
And you're considering the new gen Pilot. How long has that been out, one or two years? Very fresh and very prone to the early teething issues.

A warranty is one thing, but if the car has issues while you're away, your wife will still be left without a car and dealers have become quite stingy with rentals lately. At least that's what I hear here and from my friends.

What's the difference, from the inconvenience perspective, between the car being stuck at the dealership for warranty work vs a mechanic or that same dealership to fix it out of pocket?
 
It was worth a shot...

Seriously though, I believe most of your concerns about reliability is in your head. You have a perfectly reliable vehicle that's been well taken care of. The chances of it leaving your wife stranded are probably very similar to a new vehicle. Rust is a big contributor to issues popping out due to age, but you don't have this problem in Texas.
And you're considering the new gen Pilot. How long has that been out, one or two years? Very fresh and very prone to the early teething issues.

A warranty is one thing, but if the car has issues while you're away, your wife will still be left without a car and dealers have become quite stingy with rentals lately. At least that's what I hear here and from my friends.

What's the difference, from the inconvenience perspective, between the car being stuck at the dealership for warranty work vs a mechanic or that same dealership to fix it out of pocket?
You are correct, it is mostly in my head, I tend to overthink things.

My issue with repairs is how outrageously expensive any work done by the dealer is, it just doesn’t make sense. And since I’ve never really had issues with the pilot and done all the maintenance work myself, I haven’t found a shop that I’d trust to do the work when needed. If anyone can suggest a decent shop in North of Houston area, I’d greatly appreciate it.
 
What trim level? There’s like 8 or more.

But Toyota does have a different style than Honda.
It was XSE. And it’s not so much a styling issue, but how cheaply Toyota feels (not to say that Pilot felt as a luxury car). Even sienna’s top trip I sat in felt rather disappointing. Could be just my expectations. I guess I was expecting the cars to evolve in the past 8 yrs (in terms of build and quality of the materials), but I’m seeing the opposite.
 
While waiting on the parts decided to take a peek underneath. It looks like TB tensioner is leaking (see attached picture). I think this would also explain oily film I was seeing in the axle boot, which is pretty much located underneath the tensioner. Additionally, I wonder if faulty tensioner is the root cause of the rattle/stuttering I’ve been hearing when revving the engine up from idle rpm (YouTube links , ). I should mention that rattle was present for several years now, I was just able to consistently replicate it last year. It’s not audible when inside the car, but obvious when outside. It does appear to be more pronounced on the right side of the engine where timing components are.
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Rattling could be a heat shield. Had that happen on one of my cars. Thought timing chain was rattling but after much investigation found it was a heat shield.
 
Dang, it sounds in very poor condition and the safety of your family is in jeopardy. I bet they will only give you a couple thousand on trade too.
I will give you 5k for it. When can I pick it up?
 
Dang, it sounds in very poor condition and the safety of your family is in jeopardy. I bet they will only give you a couple thousand on trade too.
I will give you 5k for it. When can I pick it up?
Let me get that timing belt changed out and I’ll let you know when to come pick it up
 
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