What does his post secondary education have to do with the lubrication of his vehicle? His major may be one of the non-sciences. And even if it was one of the sciences, very few courses actually deal with the properties of lubricants in practical applications.
This site is vast! Need some peace of mind, please
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OK, maybe that was out of line. I looked over the UOA results a bit more closely and dino 5w/10w-30s are doing fine in the VQs. I just remember some early reports that had really high numbers, then there was one report on 15w-40 Delo that was spectacular. My apologies 427.
I wouldn't return the Pennzoil either, but judging by product data sheets Havoline appears to use a little better base oil(wider spread between pour point and flash point) in their formula.
If you're not going to UOA every year, keep OCI around 4000 miles/4 months.
If you're not going to UOA every year, keep OCI around 4000 miles/4 months.
The problem is, there is no one "best" oil. The O.P. asked for opinions and suggestions, and it looks like he/she rec'd quite a few.
Double post, sorry.
What are you Bones, the milk monitor?
Yes there is... Valvoline MaxLife 10W-40.
If I were the topic starter, I'd rather have 2 or 3 pages of opinions rather than a lifeless thread with only a few replies.
Hi guys... I'm not gone yet (but I was away from a computer for a few days). I appreciate the replies very much. Even the ones who are laughing at me
, at least you want to educate me on my misconceptions.
I haven't datalogged any oil temps yet, but I have a greddy emanage ultimate which can absolutely datalog oil temps, so once I get a laptop hooked up in the car, I can get some numbers.
I admit I've been lazy with the OCIs (partly because my dealer, who offered me FREE oil changes, kept shafting me on service appointments), but as I've said, my oil pressure gauge is assuring me that there is no problem with viscosity. It's right at 30psi at idle when warm, right where it should be.
I'm going to change to 4k mi OCI, (owner's manual suggests 3750 mi) and I will continue to use dino oil for the time being. Maybe when my engine gets a little older I will make the switch.
Now, that we have gotten into the realm of synthetics, I don't have ANY problem putting synthetic into my girlfriend's civic. She used to take it to jiffy lube
but I refuse to let her anymore. So I will do her oil changes from now on... and I will definitely use synthetic to enjoy an extended oci.
Her owners manual suggests 5w-20 so if anyone has any suggestions for a good, cheap syn at 5w-20 then I'm all ears. I will continue searching the forums (I'm no newb to webforums) for some more info as well.
I will also look into getting wix filters since it seems they come highly recommended from your website.
Thanks for the help guys.
I haven't datalogged any oil temps yet, but I have a greddy emanage ultimate which can absolutely datalog oil temps, so once I get a laptop hooked up in the car, I can get some numbers.
I admit I've been lazy with the OCIs (partly because my dealer, who offered me FREE oil changes, kept shafting me on service appointments), but as I've said, my oil pressure gauge is assuring me that there is no problem with viscosity. It's right at 30psi at idle when warm, right where it should be.
I'm going to change to 4k mi OCI, (owner's manual suggests 3750 mi) and I will continue to use dino oil for the time being. Maybe when my engine gets a little older I will make the switch.
Now, that we have gotten into the realm of synthetics, I don't have ANY problem putting synthetic into my girlfriend's civic. She used to take it to jiffy lube
but I refuse to let her anymore. So I will do her oil changes from now on... and I will definitely use synthetic to enjoy an extended oci.
Her owners manual suggests 5w-20 so if anyone has any suggestions for a good, cheap syn at 5w-20 then I'm all ears. I will continue searching the forums (I'm no newb to webforums) for some more info as well.
I will also look into getting wix filters since it seems they come highly recommended from your website.
Thanks for the help guys.
Wired 24/7 came to us and asked a simple question, and in typical BITOG fashion, we over thought, over analyzed and answered qustions that he didn't ask.
The next time someone asks "What is the best dino oil?", maybe we can all simply answer his or her question, so maybe they will hang around for more than 5 posts.
Darryl
The next time someone asks "What is the best dino oil?", maybe we can all simply answer his or her question, so maybe they will hang around for more than 5 posts.
Darryl
Heh... for the record I'm in grad school for chemical engineering. Since I'm going for a PhD, I'll be in school for probably 3+ more years. But I'll admit I don't know much about .... *ahem* mechanical engineering.quote:
Originally posted by TooSlick:
Mike,
If you really think you can't run a synthetic lube in this engine you need to stay in school a bit longer - maybe a lot longer...
Oh yeah... someone mentioned UOA. Are there any how-to's listed on this website?
I noticed amsoil has a UOA kit / mail in program, should I try that one or is there cheaper?
I noticed amsoil has a UOA kit / mail in program, should I try that one or is there cheaper?
Wired: One popular source to have a UOA performed is via BITOG site-sponsor Blackstone Labs.
If you really want to get a professional read on your UOA, I'd recommend having Terry Dyson of Dyson Analysis (also a site-sponsor) analyze your UOA:
Dyson Analysis
If you really want to get a professional read on your UOA, I'd recommend having Terry Dyson of Dyson Analysis (also a site-sponsor) analyze your UOA:
Dyson Analysis
Thanks for the link. A free kit! Nice
For $20 I don't mind sending in a sample to see if I have messed up my engine for life with the 4500 oci
For $20 I don't mind sending in a sample to see if I have messed up my engine for life with the 4500 oci
You'd better be very careful about what you buy, as many dino oils are blended with some GIII synthetic.
Your manual does NOT state that synthetics should never be used, BTW.
Your manual does NOT state that synthetics should never be used, BTW.
I believe you're right that the manual doesn't strictly forbid syn. My concern is partly from the manual, and partly from other users' experiences. After searching the my350z forums, most of the people who reported oil burning were using mobil1.
Possibly a stupid question...
If I go with synthetic is there any logic to support that a 10w-30 would be less likely to burn /get consumed than a 5w-30?
I might consider using amsoil in the future after i use up the pennzoil i already paid for. After I do a little more research of course.
Possibly a stupid question...
If I go with synthetic is there any logic to support that a 10w-30 would be less likely to burn /get consumed than a 5w-30?
I might consider using amsoil in the future after i use up the pennzoil i already paid for. After I do a little more research of course.
Bump for an answer, or possibly more newb bashing.
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