Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: Rand
I was UNIMPRESSED with the car version Michelin "defender".. however that was 4 years ago.. I'm sure they are beyond tweaked by now and improved.
The new version is called Defender T+H
And these have excellent reviews from my findings.
Defender T+H is good except for tire rack actually tested it and said it needed a "big bump in wet traction".
So why pay premium prices for something that fails in the rain?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=236
Continental TrueContact Tour would be a better choice if you're in the expensive-tire category.
That wet traction is a tough one to get right, when balanced against dry and winter traction at the same time.
Siping shape certainly plays a big role. The other part of wet traction performance comes from a very deeply technical area exemplified by "A typical tire compound is examined for the effects of the ingredients on improvements in wet traction, i.e., raising the glass transition temperature of the polymer or the extender oil, increasing the fineness of the carbon black, and lowering the level of curatives."-- https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1370-1_13
Those test are from them flying around a drenched wet track. I flew through deep standing water yesterday in the new tires with ZERO problems. I'm not concerned in the slightest.
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: Rand
I was UNIMPRESSED with the car version Michelin "defender".. however that was 4 years ago.. I'm sure they are beyond tweaked by now and improved.
The new version is called Defender T+H
And these have excellent reviews from my findings.
Defender T+H is good except for tire rack actually tested it and said it needed a "big bump in wet traction".
So why pay premium prices for something that fails in the rain?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=236
Continental TrueContact Tour would be a better choice if you're in the expensive-tire category.
That wet traction is a tough one to get right, when balanced against dry and winter traction at the same time.
Siping shape certainly plays a big role. The other part of wet traction performance comes from a very deeply technical area exemplified by "A typical tire compound is examined for the effects of the ingredients on improvements in wet traction, i.e., raising the glass transition temperature of the polymer or the extender oil, increasing the fineness of the carbon black, and lowering the level of curatives."-- https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-1370-1_13
Those test are from them flying around a drenched wet track. I flew through deep standing water yesterday in the new tires with ZERO problems. I'm not concerned in the slightest.