Sorry for the sappy "headline style" Subject line, but thought it would be interesting to hear some more thoughts on the two oils. I know they are higher priced and may not be API certified, and may fall into the catagory of "designer label oils". It is my opinion (so far) that they are both excellent oils, so no mudslinging please. My question is how do they really stack up against each other in UOA's or real world driving. Is one clearly better than the other or is it just a coin toss? Probably looking at the 5w-30 or 5w-40. I have the VW Passat turbo 1.8T with a small capacity sump, so I want an oil that will hold up and perform for daily driving and some "spirited" road trips, keep the turbo in uncoked condition, go a little longer in oil changes and still help to insure as long engine life as I can get.