The Fram TG now has a nitrile ADBV?

[dlundblad]

I’ve always been a Fram fan. I’ll just throw this out there. I was looking for an EG for my garden tractor, but wasn’t a fan of how the threads looked. I went onto the TG line and found this. I put it back. Going to try the Kia/ Hyundai style WIX.

I’d argue the TG is now even more pointless than when the EG had silicone.

On a side note, WM had Delo blend 10w30 diesel/ gas rated oil on clearance. $11 a gallon.

 

[hrv]

Here we go again...................

 

[Sayjac]

Nitrile adbvs have shown up on some TGs posted here. Likely supply chain issues. I would say it's a bigger deal on the 15k mi. rated TG than those on the orange can. Another reason to check/inspect an OF before purchase. Relatively recent production, 5/16/2022

 

[Duffyjr]

Hit and miss. I picked up a TG3387A that was orange a couple months ago. I would have passed as well knowing mine would be in use for a year.

 

[dlundblad]

Here we go again...................

Again?

The nitrile is new to me as is the poor threads.

 

[dlundblad]

These threads are beautiful.

 

[PimTac]

Maybe it’s black silicone?

 

[hrv]

Again?

The nitrile is new to me as is the poor threads.

Have you done a search???? Many many pages about this...

 

[WagonWheel]

I recently bought a TG7317 from WM and it was silicone. It’s used in a bottom mount position (Honda J35), so probably doesn’t matter.

 

[Sayjac]

Maybe it’s black silicone?

Since several black adbvs showing up on Fram OF have been tested several ways and proven to be nitrile, I'd call that speculation here, highly unlikely.

 

[hrv]

I recently bought a TG7317 from WM and it was silicone. It’s used in a bottom mount position (Honda J35), so probably doesn’t matter.

all of the TG 7317 that I have looked at the local WalMart were silicone too...

 

[dlundblad]

Have you done a search???? Many many pages about this...

Why would I search for something I didn’t know existed? Lol

Can you back your claim with some examples?

 

[hrv]

Why would I search for something I didn’t know existed? Lol

Because that is what a search is for....to see if others have posted about it.....

 

[dlundblad]

Because that is what a search is for....to see if others have posted about it.....

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying.

 

[Sayjac]

I recently bought a TG7317 from WM and it was silicone. It’s used in a bottom mount position (Honda J35), so probably doesn’t matter.

If one is paying a price premium (to EG) for a filter rated to 15k miles and it says it has a silicone adbv, isn't that what you want/expect. I would.

As for filter orientation, because a filter is mounted thread end up towards bottom of engine (like many Hondas) doesn't mean the adbv isn't relevant. Besides keeping oil in the filter, the adbv helps keep oil in the engine oil galleries above the filter.

 

[hrv]

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying.

yes I do.....

 

[PimTac]

Since several black adbvs showing up on Fram OF have been tested several ways and proven to be nitrile, I'd call that speculation here, highly unlikely.

DENSO.

 

[dlundblad]

DENSO.

Yes!!! 😂😂😂

 

[WagonWheel]

As for filter orientation, because a filter is mounted thread end up towards bottom of engine (like many Hondas) doesn't mean the adbv isn't relevant. Besides keeping oil in the filter, the adbv helps keep oil in the engine oil galleries above the filter.

Good to know. To be clear, if it lacked an adbv, I would have put it back on the shelf.

 

[Sayjac]

DENSO.

Strawman, not topic Fram black adbvs. 'To this point', specifically the "Toyota Thai Denso" remains the singular outlier of black adbvs proven made of silicone. Fyi, that statement would include the China made "DENSO" First Time Fit oil filters with black adbv, proven nitrile. So only one Denso type (Toyota) black adbv is silicone.