Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Here is something to think about. You can get a basic I4 Ranger with a payload capacity over 1500 lbs. Guess what the payload capacity is for the typical loaded crew cab luxury 1/2 ton with a big V8? Around 1500 lbs., and often times less than that. Many are in the 1000-1300 lb. range.
Here's the facts:
Maximum available payload capacity for a "Basic" 2009 I4 Ranger is 1,180 pounds. Not "over 1500".
Source:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/assets/pdf/vehicle-specs/09_Ranger_Online Spec Light.pdf
Maximum available payload capacity for the 2009 F-150 5.4 SuperCrew 4x2 Styleside 145" wheelbase is 1,760 pounds. Not "1500, or 1000 or 1300".
Source:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/assets/pdf/vehicle-specs/09 F-150_online SpecLite_NAV.pdf
Do you want to try that again?
I'm sorry. But your bias for the Ranger is starting to go to your head, and you're starting to make statements that simply aren't true.
The payloads listed in the Ranger brochure are not for payload package 2, and they don't even begin to cover the various GVWRs available. Go to a dealer and get a free towing guide instead of the useless brochure. With payload package 2 the payload capacity for a Ranger I4 is well over 1180. I have owned one, have you? I specifically remember the door jamb sticker listing the GVWR of my 2001 2.5 at 5440 lbs...and it might have weighed 3000 lbs. soaking wet.
As for the 1/2 tons, you can really play around with the configurations all day, but 9 times out of 10, the truck with the most options has the worst payload. It isn't hard to figure that out...more stuff = more weight, and more weight eats into the GVWR. And notice I didn't specifically say "2009 F-150," I said 1/2 tons, like I did in my original post. With a bad gear combo and loaded up with options, I can guarantee you that the payload for a Super Crew or any other 1/2 crew cab is not 1760 lbs. I don't have time to go chasing links, but I have looked up the payloads for various other 1/2 tons before and have seen them well below 1500 lbs. The last one I remember looking up was a 2008 Tundra Crew Max or whatever 4x4 which came in at around 1350 lbs. That's sure not 1500.
You missed the point of my post entirely though. My point is that the loaded trucks have the worst payload. Go look up the payload for a regular cab long bed 1/2 ton from any brand. It's a [censored] of a lot more than what you would find on any loaded crew cab from the same company. I don't care what make/model you use for the comparison, the result is usually the same. I only picked the Ranger because I happened to own one with a GVWR that I remembered and that put its payload in the 1500 lb. range. I don't know the payload or GVWR for a Tacoma, or Frontier, or most other trucks off the top of my head. I'm sure if you looked it up though, you could find configurations of those trucks that have payload capacities comparable or higher to those of some larger trucks. If you want your crew cab with a full floor console, DVD player, 20" wheels, moonroof, and every other gadget and useless feature on the option sheet, you will be sacrificing something else unless the GVWR goes up too.
Yep, that's right. I have a '95 Ranger longbed 2.3L 4cyl 2wd 5speed. 175k original clutch. Tows 3000 lbs no problem: trailer + racing car (Formula Ford) + tires & tools
1. You need know when to shift and keep your foot into it to keep momentum. No automatics to sap the power or guess what to do going up hills. You pay attention and it pays off.
2. 21 mpg towing. No kidding. 93 octane.
3. If you are smooth on the shifts and brakes, plus match the revs on the downshifts, safer (stable) than an automatic and more efficient and faster.