Sounds great, but I’m from Missouri.
I’ll check back in two years before passing judgment as a fair opportunity to Elon.
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I’ll check back in two years before passing judgment as a fair opportunity to Elon.
A 747 has 66,000 lbs of thrust; an F16 has 23,000-29,000.
Just gonna leave this here…
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Congrats on your first dozen posts-and the 13th one being a bunch of dribble.
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And a google search show a Toyota burst in to flames October 15th in Los Angeles. Whats your point?
Authorities told RMG News that a black Toyota Prius burst into flames around midnight in the northbound lanes of the 101 on the Conejo Grade.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/car-bursts-into-flames-on-101-freeway-in-ventura-county/
According to Jason Fenske from Engineering Explained under absolutely perfect conditions, I.e flat terrain, at 60 mph, 70f or (21.1 c) and in daylight the tesla will use 797.7 KWH or almost all of its battery capacity of 800 KWH. This doesn't include hills, headlights, or other accessories being used. With Jason's calculations if you add a 1% grade, or ie almost nothing keep in mind I-70 in Colorado has an average of 6% grade the steepest spot is 9.4% grade. If you add a 1% grade to 500 miles of claimed range or 100 miles, a 10 mph headwind and a 70 mph speed you would need 2,011.8 KWH which is alot more than the claimed 800 KWH battery that Tesla claims. This would give an actual range of 250 Miles. Call me a skeptic but I don't see the actual range as being very truthful.
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These guys are estimating it being 875kWh, 900V:
https://insideevs.com/news/521840/tesla-semi-480-battery-analysis/
70% is 612.5kWh, doing that in 30 minutes requires a charge rate of 1,225kW; 1.225MW.
At 900VDC, you'd require 1,400A of current to deliver a 1,260kW (1.26MW) charge rate. I'm sure @Shannow could comment on how potentially dangerous that is.
This of course ignores losses.
So, assuming the charge rate is truthful, charging 5x of these things would draw 6.3MW. If they get cycled 50% a day, that's ~438kWh, so, at Cali power prices, ~$165.00/unit.
I wonder if Pepsi is just going to run cogen and use gas to produce the electricity?
The problem that I've been saying for years is that there is a HUGE difference between building vehicles that have a cult-like following and building a commercial vehicle that will actually last. Plus there's a huge difference between customer service on a family vehicle, and a vehicle that a company requires for its business to be successful.
Agreed. Using resources wisey is critical to ongoing corporate success. Same as you and me. Pepsi, Walmart, Anheuser-Bush and the other early adopters better get it right. I believe Tesla has about 800 orders; filling those will take time as the Giga Nevada pilot line can build about 250 annually. When Austin ramps, capacity will be 50,000 per year. Ramping will take about a year, so sometime in 2024?
Certainly an abmitious schedule.
The Semi has the potential to greatly reduce the cost of operation per mile.
Reducing the cost of transport per mile has an impact on virtually all products that are transported by trucks, which is basically everything.
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Just remember the power a single mega charger draws will power about 800 homes. also consider the HP needed to drive the Gen head to make 1,000,000 watts,,, About 1500, not including transmission losses.
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CA has everything on the ballot. Proposition 65 was on the ballot. It is example why direct democracy is not the best idea.
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Every model that Tesla got out was engulfed in disinformation from Tesla. He charged one model before they could be delivered, he screwed govt. on incentives before they were available and govt. could not bail out. His “beta testing “ is nothing more than: we can’t/won’t deliver proper product, but hey, it is cult, so who cares.”
Problem now is that he bought Twitter, and paid $44bln for everyone to actually see what an idiot that is. And Tesla shareholders are “thrilled “ with this development.
The later 747 has 66,000 lbf per engine. That’s 264,000 pounds thrust in total
by way of comparison our Gulfstream G600 makes about 32,000 pounds thrust in total and tomorrow’s flight we will be at 60,000 pounds takeoff Weight.
I'm sure Elon will take your good advice under strong consideration.
He's the richest man in the world, Tesla is the most valuable car company in the world, builds the #1 revenue earning car in the world and has every other car company chasing him.
Not to mention, SpaceX, Neuralink, Boring Co and now Twitter. Depending on what he does with Twitter, it just might become the biggest win of all.
Yep. Elon's a real Bozo...
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Depends what is Bozo? Giving personal information of dissidents to dictators, people ending up in prison bcs. of his vanity? Mooching off government $$$ to be where he is after taking over invention from other people (Tesla).
I mean sure, Putin could be considered really “successful” too by those standards. I mean, both have their own cult.
Also, how rich he is is up for a debate. He borrowed $12bln from that butcher in Saudi Arabia to buy social media company and took him two weeks to bring it to blackout.
And valuation of Tesla is going “excellent.”
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Wealth means little to many... just means he/others can get away with idiotic mistakes at times. Hilarious that some will look at him with envy, overlook the drama queen antics, etc. At the end of the day he's human, not much else and does make mistakes and apparently plenty of them.
So the payload capacity of the EV truck will be less than a diesel, do we know the weight difference of the two that results in a loss of carrying capacity?
I was looking for a product from Tesla that could keep them ahead of the onslaught of passenger EVs they are going to encounter and I think this will be it for a while.
Personally as an investor I would be more excited about this vehicle than passenger vehicles.
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Don't like Elon - no one cares.
Don't like electric trucks - dont buy one.
They are coming full force regardless of how you feel about them.
The market seems unconcerned about how they are going to keep them charged.
Electric trucks are going to be used for port to railhead and intracity movement mainly.
They will have a distinct advantage in stop and go traffic and can take full advantage of regen in this use case.
In the case of LA the railhead is about 28 miles from the port.
In the case of a 250 mile range thats 3-4 trips before needing to recharge.
Thats a days work.
Heres the market is lined up today. Even if the semi gets 250 - it's still competitive in this market.
Don't like electric trucks - dont buy one.
They are coming full force regardless of how you feel about them.
The market seems unconcerned about how they are going to keep them charged.
Electric trucks are going to be used for port to railhead and intracity movement mainly.
They will have a distinct advantage in stop and go traffic and can take full advantage of regen in this use case.
In the case of LA the railhead is about 28 miles from the port.
In the case of a 250 mile range thats 3-4 trips before needing to recharge.
Thats a days work.
Heres the market is lined up today. Even if the semi gets 250 - it's still competitive in this market.
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