Tesla SEMI 1st delivery...

Musk guaranteed the Semi would not break down for a million miles. He made the promise because of the vehicle's independent drivetrains, should one shut down, the others would take over.
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As in not stranded along the road, it could limp in on the others? If one of the drivetrains breaks it will need replaced/serviced putting it out of service in the shop. Broke down.

Semantics.
 
RooflessVW said:
Well it presumably has convention brakes and regenerative braking
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I'm sure it does, lots of energy to recover there. But its not too difficult to "out-drive your brakes" even in powerful cars and it sounds like a truck that can accelerate like this one could maybe lead to something similar to that....? Super duper brakes are wonderful, if this thing has them, but physics is physics, this beast is only going to stop as well as the friction between the tires and pavement lets it.

And I dont mean to imply anything condescending towards truck drivers, but we're all human. Give a 747 the power of an F-16, and some Bud Holland type will try to fly it like one. Same potential with this truck in the wrong hands. Maybe I'm just dreaming up a non-issue, wouldnt be my first time...
 
BigJohn said:
To 70% from empty in 30 minutes.... I assume that is for a 480volt 3-phase connection???? Does anyone have any idea how much drain that will be on the grid? Wondering how that will work out in the heat of summer, when electric companies are rationing and shutting down areas of the grid in Kalifornia. Does that mean the refrigerated cargo will go bad on the side of the interstate?

I can honestly see there being a place for these trucks in large metro areas.... but never for the long haul.


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Grid!! My electricity comes from a receptacle in the wall.
 
RedSpider said:
I'm sure it does, lots of energy to recover there. But its not too difficult to "out-drive your brakes" even in powerful cars and it sounds like a truck that can accelerate like this one could maybe lead to something similar to that....? Super duper brakes are wonderful, if this thing has them, but physics is physics, this beast is only going to stop as well as the friction between the tires and pavement lets it.

And I dont mean to imply anything condescending towards truck drivers, but we're all human. Give a 747 the power of an F-16, and some Bud Holland type will try to fly it like one. Same potential with this truck in the wrong hands. Maybe I'm just dreaming up a non-issue, wouldnt be my first time...
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The regen is microscopic.
 
2strokeNorthstar said:
Where will you charge it? If you're not close to a "megacharger" you're stuck. It would take like a week from a normal charger. The battery must be massive and the amount of power must be record setting. California better hope the wind doesn't die down or clouds move in on a delivery route.
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What about the weight...on the roads?
 
How it compares to diesels is one conversation.
I'm not super interested in that conversation.

How it compares to other electrics is what I'm interest in.
Since most of the big boys have annoucned the will be building electrics, the guy that builds the best one will take the market.

I found this interesting as I do many of EE's analysis.

 
fsdork said:
Probably at the:

If you don't like electric vehicles, that's fine. Don't pretend there isn't a difference between local deliveries in California and cross-country OTR hauling through North Dakota in February. New technology starts somewhere and evolves over time. Tough concept for some to grasp.
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Ok, Pepsi has chargers. Problem solved. I'm fine with electrics I just hate how California mandates things they are not ready to support. If they work, great. I'm all for cost savings
 
AZjeff said:
As in not stranded along the road, it could limp in on the others? If one of the drivetrains breaks it will need replaced/serviced putting it out of service in the shop. Broke down.

Semantics.
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To give Tesla its due, even though I'm no fan of EVs, we've had threads about emissions sensors and related issues causing expensive shutdowns and down time for repairs in newer diesel rigs because of all the regulations. That shouldn't be an issue with this semi. That alone could tip the scales for some carriers, especially for shorter hauls.

This is an interesting development.
 
2strokeNorthstar said:
Where will you charge it? If you're not close to a "megacharger" you're stuck. It would take like a week from a normal charger. The battery must be massive and the amount of power must be record setting. California better hope the wind doesn't die down or clouds move in on a delivery route.
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Tesla is in the process of developing a Megacharger network at trucking rest stops across the U.S. and Europe.
In addition they are working with 3rd party vendors (EVGo, etc) to build out their network.

Opportunity abounds.
 
JeffKeryk said:
Tesla is in the process of developing a Megacharger network at trucking rest stops across the U.S. and Europe.
In addition they are working with 3rd party vendors (EVGo, etc) to build out their network.

Opportunity abounds.
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In the process.... will the grid support the megawatts needed for multiple chargers in the middle of nowhere stops? Thinking of places like Wyoming. Whoever comes up with a mobile charger for AAA like roadside assistance will be rich. AFAIK that tech doesn't exist. Need a mobile/tactical necular power plant
 
2strokeNorthstar said:
In the process.... will the grid support the megawatts needed for multiple chargers in the middle of nowhere stops? Thinking of places like Wyoming. Whoever comes up with a mobile charger for AAA like roadside assistance will be rich. AFAIK that tech doesn't exist. Need a mobile/tactical necular power plant
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IF you travel the great west you should know there are high power transmission lines literally in the middle of no where. They will be installed at truck stops-and the necessary infrastructure will be there to support them-or they would be useless wouldn't they?

Rivian (for one) has installed chargers all through South America and Mexico. They also installed chargers at campgrounds in the U.S. which allowed their trucks to travel across the country-largely off road. This EV stuff isn't pipe dreams-it's evolving-FAST!
 
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2strokeNorthstar said:
Ok, Pepsi has chargers. Problem solved. I'm fine with electrics I just hate how California mandates things they are not ready to support. If they work, great. I'm all for cost savings
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Californie has been bass ackwards with many things over the yrs. Their idiotic 'cancer this/that' warnings on everything is a bit much. Basically comes down to lining their pockets, certainly not actual health improvement as I'm quite certain people die there just the same as the rest of the world.
 
CKN said:
IF you travel the great west you should know there are high power transmission lines literally in the middle of no where. They will be installed at truck stops-and the necessary infrastructure will be there to support them-or they would be useless wouldn't they?

Rivian (for one) has installed chargers all through South America and Mexico. They also installed chargers at campgrounds in the U.S. which allowed their trucks to travel across the country-largely off road. This EV stuff isn't pipe dreams-it's evolving-FAST!
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Ooohhh evolving fast... then when those turds go up in flames they dissolve FAST as well. Funny that people go on and on about how popular EVs are becoming when in my part of the state there might be 1% at most occupying the roads and still very few charge stations in usable locations. They might get it figured out by the end of this century, then again they've been at it oh over a century already. Long live ICEEEEEEEE!
 
EspressoJunky said:
Ooohhh evolving fast... then when those turds go up in flames they dissolve FAST as well. Funny that people go on and on about how popular EVs are becoming when in my part of the state there might be 1% at most occupying the roads and still very few charge stations in usable locations. They might get it figured out by the end of this century, then again they've been at it oh over a century already. Long live ICEEEEEEEE!
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Every house is a charging station.

What state do you live in?
 
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