quote:How often do you encounter ice? If only a week or so a year skip them. Most of my winter in Seacoast NH is on dry/wet roads were studded tires are abysmal and seem like compromise of safety/traction.
Originally posted by sxg6: I'm thinking about giving them a try. Good/Bad experiences? I hear on the highway they arent very good, is this true?
quote:In the Northeast they use copious amounts of salt/sand on the roads and having armada's of plows so icing is not really an issue except during the height of a storm. Usually it is not a smart idea to be driving in the height of these conditions no matter what tire you own. Since the next driver 95% likely does not have decent tires and will slide into you especially with your superior stopping distances. Ask my wife who was rear ended three times during a very icy storm. Her Nokian snows did not do an ounce of good sitting at stops being rear ended not once, not twice, but three times in a single storm over a 45 min drive. The backend of her Civic was not pretty after.
Originally posted by 1sttruck: "How often do you encounter ice? If only a week or so a year skip them." Just have a backup plan for dealing with ice, or an extra week of extra vacation so that you don't need to drive to work, food for a week, possibly being able to afford staying in a hotel for a week if an ice storm catches you on the road. Remember that Mother Nature doesn't give you extra credit for having the right tires most of the time, and 20 feet of ice can wreck your day.
quote:I've heard many folks around here sing the praises of BFG TA/KO's in the snow, which makes me wonder what on earth they are comparing them to. I had them in the snow ONCE! Holy cow they were terrible (compared to the cheap studs mentioned previously). Awesome on dirt and gravel though.
Originally posted by jmacmaster: Also, don't listen to the people that will praise the traction of All-Terrain tires on snow. A snow (also called winter) tire is made of a softer compound than AT, MT, all-season, and summer tires. The softer compound lets the snow tire grip better on ice and hard packed snow. The harder compound that the AT tires are made of doesn't let the tire grip as good on ice and hardpacked snow, so they aren't as good as a snow tire.
quote:I don't think it's a myth, but I don't think it's a big concern either. I try to avoid hard launches with my studs but it has happened, and my car hooks up fine on dry pavement with them. In winter conditions, I'd rather have 95% of non-studded dry traction and some traction on ice than 100% dry traction and nothing when I hit the ice.
Originally posted by jmacmaster: Its a myth that studs cause a bit less traction on bare pavement.