Synthetic or Regular in this situation?

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Originally Posted By: wbwanzer
Originally Posted By: wemay
Dealer uses conventional oil. Hyundai does not require synthetic. I was a huge proponent of synthetic for every turbo application until i bought a Hyundai and saw that the syn was not a spec, as it is not with many turbo manufacturers. Now, after reading how hard our di engines are on oil, i bring my own syn to the dealer because i have the same package (only 9 OC though, not for life like yours). But if changeing every 2500 miles? you will be fine with conventional imho. Overkill? absolutely.
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If I confirm that the dealer uses conventional oil, then I would feel better doing a change in between theirs.



To paraphrase a member who's by far the largest contributor of data on this site,your engine is a machine. It requires lubrication and the oem has gone to great lengths establishing that the lubricant they specify will lubricate properly with some added headroom.
To base an oil change on "feelings" is neither prudent nor cost effective not to mention the the ecological impact.
The oem has spent a ton of money acquiring DATA on this topic therefore "feelings" aren't applicable.
Unless you have data suggesting otherwise why spend money on a fools errand that only ensures a lighter wallet.
Why not take the 30 bucks you were going to spend on the unnecessary oil change and send a sample to blackstone and acquire data,after break in of course so the extra wear metals don't skew the results of course.
That 30 dollar used oil analysis can set your mind at ease and save thousands over the ownership of the vehicle,depending on how long you keep it.
It's been proven that at every oil change the new oil strips off the old oils anti-wear layer off and until that new layer is applied(1000 miles or so)wear accelerates.
So if you follow your "feelings" you are actually contributing to more wear,not less.
If you don't trust the oem then I suggest sending oil samples out to be analyzed and be truly informed,then make a decision based on facts and data,not "feelings".
Just my opinion.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: wbwanzer
Originally Posted By: wemay
Dealer uses conventional oil. Hyundai does not require synthetic. I was a huge proponent of synthetic for every turbo application until i bought a Hyundai and saw that the syn was not a spec, as it is not with many turbo manufacturers. Now, after reading how hard our di engines are on oil, i bring my own syn to the dealer because i have the same package (only 9 OC though, not for life like yours). But if changeing every 2500 miles? you will be fine with conventional imho. Overkill? absolutely.
smile.gif



If I confirm that the dealer uses conventional oil, then I would feel better doing a change in between theirs.



To paraphrase a member who's by far the largest contributor of data on this site,your engine is a machine. It requires lubrication and the oem has gone to great lengths establishing that the lubricant they specify will lubricate properly with some added headroom.
To base an oil change on "feelings" is neither prudent nor cost effective not to mention the the ecological impact.
The oem has spent a ton of money acquiring DATA on this topic therefore "feelings" aren't applicable.
Unless you have data suggesting otherwise why spend money on a fools errand that only ensures a lighter wallet.
Why not take the 30 bucks you were going to spend on the unnecessary oil change and send a sample to blackstone and acquire data,after break in of course so the extra wear metals don't skew the results of course.
That 30 dollar used oil analysis can set your mind at ease and save thousands over the ownership of the vehicle,depending on how long you keep it.
It's been proven that at every oil change the new oil strips off the old oils anti-wear layer off and until that new layer is applied(1000 miles or so)wear accelerates.
So if you follow your "feelings" you are actually contributing to more wear,not less.
If you don't trust the oem then I suggest sending oil samples out to be analyzed and be truly informed,then make a decision based on facts and data,not "feelings".
Just my opinion.


You mean like VW who just changed their spec oil in their 7spd DSG because of well engineered failures, causing over a million vehicle recall? But seriously, oci every 2500 miles is again, overkill.
 
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Originally Posted By: wemay
It took me forever to discover that the oil my dealership uses isnt QS as the sticker stated. When asked, all they would say is its a bulk oil from a distributor named Flamingo. I called Flamingo and asked what oils were supplied. Thay placed me in touch with the Salesman that actually sold to this dealer. They dont use QS. They use something named Maximo 5w30 (What?!) as the conventional. They use EcoPower Syn blend as the top end lube (NOT A SYN). From this, I started bringing my own oil in and standing near the bay opening where I can see the usage of my oil. BTW, the other dealership uses Formula Shell and Formula Shell Syn.

Flamingo Oil is a distributor, but apparently own the MAXIMO name. It's distributed through three companies, and it looks like it's only available in Florida. If I were to guess, this is something they probably blend themselves. It's not that hard these days to just buy the base oil and buy the add pack, and package it.

http://maximooil.com/
http://www.pinkbird.com

They distribute maybe 6 brand names too.
 
Use a clean container and after the dealers documented oil change, Immediately drain the oil and run synthetic for till the next dealer change. Use the oil you drain in one of your older other cars!
That way you get the documented oil change, still use a synthetic in your car, and dont waste the oil from the dealer, and you wont be changing every 2500 miles.
 
Thanks y_p_w, I actually did the search as well. It is API certified and meets spec but I'm not using it with all the known quality oils out there. Their employes were however, very forthcoming and helpful.
 
Synthetic, a quality one, at every, reasonably spaced oil change.

It's not just the turbo that benefits from synthetic on turbo engines.
 
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Use a clean container and after the dealers documented oil change, Immediately drain the oil and run synthetic for till the next dealer change. Use the oil you drain in one of your older other cars!
That way you get the documented oil change, still use a synthetic in your car, and dont waste the oil from the dealer, and you wont be changing every 2500 miles.


Sneaky, sneaky. I would modify that to say you could also use the oil in lawn mowers, etc... if they are a similar weight.
 
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