Suzuki 1.4 Boosterjet TGDI (K14C) engine oil selection

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Hi, I'm looking for advice on Suzuki boosterjet 1.4 K14C (TGDI) engine oil. My use is mostly of medium journeys 20/30 km in the mountains and hills, average speeds of 40 km / h, occasionally long journeys, cool temperatures between -15 to +30 °C, at most 3000 RPM for 90% of the time. I would choose strict oil change intervals of up to 8000 km (5000 miles). I am interested in maximum protection from wear of the engine and timing chain, cleaning from carbon deposits on the valves given the direct injection, protection from any LSPI. Not having had a TGDI before, I explored the preferable oil specifications also in relation to what Suzuki recommended, it seems to me that a new API SP and ILSAC GF-6 would be excellent, in addition to a Dexos1 gen2 for petrol engines .

Minimum required specifications:
Suzuki k14c spec.png


The oil qualities should be: 5w30 with the lowest NOACK and mid saps for the intake valves; molybdenum content to limit wear on the chain.

What I don't understand is which is the correct HTHS for this motor, equal to 3.5 for safety or it can go well> 2.9 given the Acea A5 / B5 recommended specifications. The first filling should have been done with (Suzuki) Ecstar f9000 5w30 or similar, hard to find in my area, it should have an HTHS> 2.9, these are the declared characteristics:
Ecstar f9000 5w30.png


I have seen many brands but the one that most impressed me is the fully synthetic Ravenol DXG 5w30, except for HTHS of 3.1, with the following values:
Ravenol DXG 5w30.png


Alternatively also Motul Eco-lite 5w30 but it looks slightly inferior and I don't know its noack.

Thanks in advance for the advice.
 
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I have had several Suzukis. They are fine with most specified oils. If you have a Swift, I'm jealous. That is a really nice car.
 
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5w30 in either vw 504/507 or. MB 229.51....also bmw LL-04... You cant go wrong with those! They are all HTHS 3.5+ by spec!

VW>MB>BMW <---- I would choose in this order!

Ravenol has HTHS of 3.1 because its API/Ilsac...
 
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And regarding your service manual....funny that they want you to use full saps oil (ACEA A3/B4) in a TGDi engine...

Not that it is prohibited...but....dunno for your Suzuki... Some TGDi engines are LSPI prone.....and in those you can only make situation worse by using full saps oil...
 

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Not so if choosing a high HTHS or staying in an intermediate range> 2.9, would there be significant differences in wear over long mileage? Surely with a low HTHS I would get low consumption and perhaps a higher oil consumption (for now it is minimal / absent).

VW 504/507 should be the longlife specification, is it superior to ILSAC and Dexos1 gen2?
I know VW is also for diesel-DPF while ILSAC-Dexos1 is specific for petrol and there is a specific test (GF-6) on the wear of the timing chain.

Following your advice can good oils be Mobil1 ESP 5w30 and Ravenol VMP 5w30?

I have had several Suzukis. They are fine with most specified oils. If you have a Swift, I'm jealous. That is a really nice car.

No, I have a Vitara AWD SUV, but the same engine is fitted to the Swift Sport!
 
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VW can bi used in both.... 504 part of specification is for a gasoline engines... 507 belongs to diesel...

I am not fan of API/ILSAC oils...so wont comment that

Both oils above should be ok (Ravenol/Mobil).....add also Shell into equation (ECT or AV-L version)....

And thats about it :)
 
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Hello, and welcome to this board :) you'll see that I have a Boosterjet (K10C) in a Suzuki Vitara (LY). 39000km so far.

Regarding motor oils: Given my localisation, I used whatever cheap A3/B4 5W40 store brand oil I would find, and changed oil every 7500km (and filter every 15000km). No known issue so far. On the 37500km change, I even filled with a blend of Motul 7100 10W40 motorcycle engine oil (the red PAO stuff) and leftovers from car oils and motorcycle oils. I trust the >3.5 HTHS route. No oil consumption for now, but when it was new it used a few liters on the 2 first changes, then tapered low rapidly.

Have you got 6-speed auto transmission or 6-speed manual? If you got 6-speed auto and have oils concerns, I'll be happy to discuss about it in another topic :)

Also, if you want to chat about any technical details on the car, feel free to reach out
 

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Hi Superflan, I have the Aisin automatic transmission, it would be really interesting to open a specific topic soon, I have already collected information for the future ATF change and I would be happy to talk about it.

For engine oil, I would therefore remain in the 5w30 selection with HTHS> 3.5 mid saps.
 
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