Right but as I added later, what is being referenced and contrasted in this thread are dreams of moly and other "additives" that aren't even additives. With licenses such as dexos and approvals you've listed there are actual performance guarantees. No one here is able to predict the incremental future performance of an oil from a VOA or UOA despite this endless speculation. Between a $30 spectrographic analysis and a dexos license I know which one I'll pick.It doesn’t matter to me. I don’t own a GM vehicle. If the certification is on the label, I don’t bother looking for it and the certification doesn’t effect my purchase on way or the other. Motorcraft oil doesn’t have the Dexos certification but, It meets the Ford specification for my vehicle and the latest API specifications. Similar situation with VW 508.00/509.00.