Superintelligence will trigger a 10x surge in scientific AI breakthroughs?

JeffKeryk said:
Questions are good! Perhaps a little advice? Thanks in advance Pablo.
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Do you ever ask if these "tech" (every bloody inch of it) items will make you more free in every way? Will they provide more liberty from the government? If so, how exactly? What is solidly in place to prevent any government from using this tech in ANY devious way?
 
Pablo said:
Do you ever ask if these "tech" (every bloody inch of it) items will make you more free in every way? Will they provide more liberty from the government? If so, how exactly? What is solidly in place to prevent any government from using this tech in ANY devious way?
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Those are fair and important questions. I appreciate your thoughts. I suggest this stuff is coming whether we like it or not. Do you want the US to lead or China, North Korea, etc?

I forsee better medicine and other benefits going forward. There is so much more.

This stuff intrigues me because my career was in Silicon Valley and I attend lectures, etc.

The science and resulting tech is amazing.
Perhaps others like @MolaKule can offer their thoughts. I would be interested..

By the way the gvt knows all about us already. That ship has sailed. And yes, tech has been very good to me.
 
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JeffKeryk said:
Those are fair and important questions. I appreciate your thoughts. I suggest this stuff is coming whether we like it or not. Do you want the US to lead or China, North Korea, etc?

I forsee better medicine and other benefits going forward. There is so much more.

This stuff intrigues me because my career was in Silicon Valley and I attend lectures, etc.

The science and resulting tech is amazing.
Perhaps others like @MolaKule can offer their thoughts. I would be interested..

By the way the gvt knows all about us already. That ship has sailed.
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@Pablo

As in my posts presenting Sabine Hossenfeld, there can be good and bad to this technology.

The good is: Automation, AI, and optimization can help offload some of the more tedious and monotonous tasks such as preferences, sorting, pattern and visual recognition, summation and integration of data, and possibly improve healthcare, although we need to be very careful in this area.

The bad is: There are no real Ethics standards as of right now for AI. Take plagiarism; how do you handle that? Patents and Copyrights: how do you handle that?

Much depends on the levels of ego and ethics. Will egotistical egomaniacs program AI such that their main purpose is to take control of various areas of the economy and personal life? I see this as the main disadvantage of AI. Ethical humans need to review any and all AI code to make sure this does not happen or otherwise, liberty as we know it, could easily and silently slip from our grasps.
 
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MolaKule said:
@Pablo

As in my posts presenting Sabine Hossenfelder, there can be good and bad to this technology.

The good is: Automation, AI, and optimization can help offload some of the more tedious and monotonous tasks such as preferences, sorting, pattern and visual recognition, summation and integration of data, and possibly improve healthcare, although we need to be very careful in this area.

The bad is: There are no real Ethics standards as of right now for AI. Take plagiarism; how do you handle that? Patents and Copyrights: how do you handle that?

Much depends on the levels of ego and ethics. Will egotistical egomaniacs program AI such that their main purpose is to take control of various areas of the economy and personal life? I see this as the main disadvantage of AI. Ethical humans need to review any and all AI code to make sure this does not happen or otherwise, liberty as we know it, could easily and silently slip from our grasps.
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Or humans will just claim "AI did it!"
 
JeffKeryk said:
Those are fair and important questions. I appreciate your thoughts. I suggest this stuff is coming whether we like it or not. Do you want the US to lead or China, North Korea, etc?



By the way the gvt knows all about us already. That ship has sailed. And yes, tech has been very good to me.
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You are in far too deep if this doesn't bother you at all. You folded for money or a false god. It's pretty sad.

Frankly yes of course there are huge differences between us and PRNK but seems like we are using China as a model.

Here's what I am getting at: We can't depend on the government to defend us from the government. But yeah, the US Constitution and BOR are ancient documents. If this AI is as powerful as you say (it isn't YET), please pray/hope it's not more than just collecting information. You know because government has never.........................I will cut it off there.
 
Cujet said:
I asked Grok2 to design a high wing single engine piston powered aircraft with the highest cruise speed possible.
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I used the Pro version where Grok-2 is just one of the many LLM's
This was one suggestion from the picture generator

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Pablo said:
I'm not be sarcastic here: Name one original thing AI has created. (There might be something, I plead ignorance!)
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One original creation by AI in the field of physics is the jet origin identification technology developed by a research team in China. This technology uses AI to distinguish between jets originating from different quarks and gluons in high-energy collider experiments, significantly enhancing the scientific discovery capabilities of these experiments. This approach combines the Arbor algorithm for particle flow reconstruction with the ParticleNet AI model, allowing for efficient discrimination among eleven distinct types of jets, which is crucial for understanding the underlying physical laws behind collider events

https://phys.org/news/2024-06-ai-powered-jet-identification-technology.html
 
henni said:
One original creation by AI in the field of physics is the jet origin identification technology developed by a research team in China. This technology uses AI to distinguish between jets originating from different quarks and gluons in high-energy collider experiments, significantly enhancing the scientific discovery capabilities of these experiments. This approach combines the Arbor algorithm for particle flow reconstruction with the ParticleNet AI model, allowing for efficient discrimination among eleven distinct types of jets, which is crucial for understanding the underlying physical laws behind collider events
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-ai-powered-jet-identification-technology.html
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While cool and interesting...........and AI made it possible

"By combining the original high-performance particle flow reconstruction algorithm Arbor with advanced artificial intelligence (AI) technology ParticleNet, the research team developed an efficient jet origin identification technology."

No AI did not originate the thought. Humans did.
 
Pablo said:
You are in far too deep if this doesn't bother you at all. You folded for money or a false god. It's pretty sad.

Frankly yes of course there are huge differences between us and PRNK but seems like we are using China as a model.

Here's what I am getting at: We can't depend on the government to defend us from the government. But yeah, the US Constitution and BOR are ancient documents. If this AI is as powerful as you say (it isn't YET), please pray/hope it's not more than just collecting information. You know because government has never.........................I will cut it off there.
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Will AI be used for good and bad? Well, most things are.

On a similar note, I took "Business Ethics" at San Jose State. Is the term an oxymoron?
I ponder this because I have seen so many questionable things in my career. That's about as nice as I can put it... This is a tough place.

I think some may have misunderstood my thread; it was more of a question than a statement. One thing is for sure, change is coming; it always is.

Am I in too deep? No, I don't think so. I look at this stuff as life-long learning, but that's just my opinion. I will say tech has been an incredible vehicle for me to change my life. I went from a homeless, hopeless drunk to incredible opportunity. Without the promise of low cost, top notch CA education and the rapid rise of Silicon Valley who knows where I would be. So I have little reluctance to change; I have learned to embrace it.

I appreciate your thoughts.
 
henni said:
One original creation by AI in the field of physics is the jet origin identification technology developed by a research team in China. This technology uses AI to distinguish between jets originating from different quarks and gluons in high-energy collider experiments, significantly enhancing the scientific discovery capabilities of these experiments. This approach combines the Arbor algorithm for particle flow reconstruction with the ParticleNet AI model, allowing for efficient discrimination among eleven distinct types of jets, which is crucial for understanding the underlying physical laws behind collider events
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-ai-powered-jet-identification-technology.html
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@JeffKeryk

I read the paper here:

https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.132.221802

and the AI tools capture the jet-origin data and classify those "jets" according to tagging efficencies and other criteria.

Arbor is a particle-flow algorithm. ParticleNet is a customized neural network architecture that operates directly on particle clouds for jet tagging. The concepts for both tools originated in the minds of humans, not machines.
 
MolaKule said:
@JeffKeryk

I read the paper here:

https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.132.221802

and the AI tools capture the jet-origin data and classify those "jets" according to tagging efficencies and other criteria.

Arbor is a particle-flow algorithm. ParticleNet is a customized neural network architecture that operates directly on particle clouds for jet tagging. The concepts for both tools originated in the minds of humans, not machines.
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Yes, makes sense to me. Technology is the application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, often to make money.
 
"How Quantum is it?" What a fascinating question! Love Sabine.


I never considered "AI vs Quantum Computers". He who dies with the most tools wins. Plenty of room, and work, for both.
 
Here is a "plausible short term timeline" put out by the co-founder and CEO of the AI company, Apollo Research, @MariusHobbhahn, referencing other timelines by other experts in the field.

By 2029, 95% of "economically valuable tasks" will be "fully automated." That's in 4 years from now.

In just 2 years, there will be an AI that can replace a top researcher in an AI lab, and just one year after that, there will be up to 1 million of these AI researchers working in labs.

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What we really need is zero point energy.

Take a look at Ashton Forbes x account and watch his videos on MH370. He’s doing a great job debunking the debunkers.

It is not from a video game as the overlays don’t match up exactly and additionally most explosions look like that in IR.

It’s quite possible a breakthrough was made by the US Navy.

Or the guy is out of his mind.
 
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