Sunoco graphite oil

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Back in 1987, I worked at my uncle's Sunoco service station and they had Sunoco oil with graphite. This oil was black as black could be. I used to use it in my old 2.8 v-6chevy citation and it ran for 160,000 miles before is sold it. I know it was run for a few years after that, having 2 other owners. Does anyone remember this oil?
 
I used ARCO graphite oil in a 1978 Mazda GLC that I bought new. I got tired of fixing rust and sold the car, with 68,000 miles, to a guy at work. He and his wife drove it for about 4 years and put at least 100,000 more miles on it. I liked the oil, and it must have been good for the old Mazda.

I found one leftover quart and put it in the transmission of my Honda Civic. Shifted much smoother.
 
In Europe, you can still get oil w/graphite in it. I don't think its as bad an additive as some people make out...afterall, they still also make oil supplements with solid moly in it (Mr. Moly), so it can't cause that many problems....
 
I remember graphite oils. That stuff was HORRENDOUS! Turned to a tar like substance in your engine. God awful stuff.
 
Back in the '70's I used to get oil from our local rerefinery - they had these huge storage tanks,and would fill up your container from the tap.They would add graphite if you wanted....but I never wanted.

I bought a truck once that had very black oil....the owner said he used graphite oil,that was why the oil was black.Yeah,right I thought.He was in the news paper a year or so later on fraud charges....hmmmm.
 
I remember ARCO graphite. Notice that I said "remember," not "know anything about."
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I always avoided it like the plague.

Was it even actually graphite in the oil, or was it powdered molybdenum disulfide like the "graphite" dry lubricants sold for locks? Or something else?
 
I remember the ARCO brand.My dad used it.It was black with little grey specks in it.He used it in a 74' LTD wagon with a 460c.i.This was probally 1977.After that he got on a big Gulfpride kick.
 
I used it (ARCO) without problems, don't remember any gray specks. It was a mess to clean up if you spilled it. I never hear anything bad about it except for comments on BITOG about how bad it is.
 
I just happen to remember that black oil for some reason. It did work for my POS citation. I'd like to see a UOA for that stuff!!
 
Originally Posted By: John K
I used it (ARCO) without problems, don't remember any gray specks. It was a mess to clean up if you spilled it. I never hear anything bad about it except for comments on BITOG about how bad it is.


You shold have seen the engine in a Road Runner I bought that I tore down that had been run on that crud. Trust me you would have preferred sludge. That stuff was awful. Gunked everything up and turned to a tar like goo inside the engine. Caused a lot of sludge type issues.
 
I used it in a '72 Cheyenne 20 pickup, 454 automatic and in a 75 Rabbit. The pickup was T-boned before 90K miles. The 75 Rabbit was parked in a pasture at 289K miles.
 
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
I believe Sunoco bought out Arco during that time.

Most of ARCO was bought out by BP in 2000, but at some point (not sure when) the Atlantic brand (ARCO was known as Atlantic-Richfield) was spun off for ARCO's East Coast gas stations, and was acquired by Sunoco. In the early 1990's I worked at an IT consulting company that did a lot of business with ARCO in Dallas, and I spent a lot of time at the ARCO offices.
 
I used it (Arco graphite) in an Oldsmobile V8 in the 70's sometime - I'm thinking around 77 or 78.
I didn't see ANY increase in MPG, only my wallet was a little lighter.
Actually if anything I thought the car ran worse. So I went back to "regular" oil and after a couple of changes it started running as good as it used to.

If it was available today I would NOT use it in any of my vehicles.
 
something makes me think graphite would turn sludgy the same way teflon does. i would not use it, seems unrefined and does not belong in engine oil.
 
Originally Posted By: IntegraVT
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
I'd like to see a UOA for that stuff!!


You can still find a can or two of this stuff on eBay!


Cool!
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Someone needs to buy this, then send it in for analysis. Tell the lab it's Dino oil with 30K on it, or some other wild-arsed story.
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"It looks a little dark, don't know when it was last changed..."

I think the crucibles used in the spectrographic testing are made of graphite, so they might not even notice the extra C, but the insoluble measurements should be interesting!

-Moo
 
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