Pleiades is the name of the constellation that adorns Subaru logos on their grilles.
Subaru Japan now only recommends two oil grades 0W30 and 10W50
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I’m told Subaru is the Japanese word for Pleiades, don’t know if that is true.
This seems to be a site with details about the Total Les Pleiades oil, but this does not mean that Subaru Japan only recommends these two oils IMO.
Have a look at Subaru Japan’s web site, which has had the same recommendations for several years now:
SUBARUエンジンオイルラインアップ | アクセサリー | SUBARU
スバル純正オイルには水平対向エンジンにマッチした高品質なエンジンオイルを中心にターボ車や軽自動車など全ての車種に最適な商品をご用意しています。
www.subaru.jp
as stated by total themselves it’s a bandaid oil for now discontinued engine family
Looks like I’m going to use Castrol Edge 0W-30 Euro on a Forester next.
I’m really bad at remembering people’s names but seem to easily remember things like Elf calling the 2.0 oil guzzling.
Which name is weird? If you are referring to Elf that is a well known name in Europe. I think it’s part of Total now.
Old news for an old engine.
Total Fina Elf, yes.
I meant "les pleiades", I suppose between the Subaru logo and the French/Japanese oil cooperation it makes sense
Origin of the Name Subaru | Five Star Subaru
Origin of the Name Subaru | Five Star Subaru
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Their new engines could use it too.
Not needed. The fuel dilution does a good job of keeping the DI engines topped up.
Nonsense. 0w-20 offers equal protection and better fuel efficiency and is thus the logical choice for all car companies to spec globally, even where CAFE standards do not apply.
Go back and re-read that. I'm sure you'll find that it actually says 0w-20.
Go back and re-read that. I'm sure you'll find that it actually says 0w-20.
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It’s not equal protection to an oil with a higher HT/HS, that’s physically impossible. It provides adequate protection under most driving conditions. That’s what the manufacturers state.
I think the world needs to rediscover 0W-30. We are down to 2 vehicles (Toyota and Honda) - they love the stuff.
Truth!!!Not needed. The fuel dilution does a good job of keeping the DI engines topped up.
No, actually car companies spec. different oils where emissions are calculated differently.
Edit: quick search:
Subaru WRX STI: ILSAC GF6 5W30 in US.
Subaru WRX STI: ACEA C3 or A3 in EU.
Just trying to keep it real which seems like a losing battle these days.Get outta here with your thin water like oil.
Exactly. Which is rather the point some of have been making. Manufacturers are making oil recommendations based on a mixture of engine longevity and fuel efficiency (and thus emissions) concerns. At least in markets were there are legal mandates to do so. They pointedly are not doing this in markets where such mandates don't exist.
Some of us just believe that the improvements in fuel efficiency are so marginal that we'd rather weight our decision more towards the longevity considerations.
Look, it's probably a moot point for most drivers. Most people won't keep a car long enough for the engine to die due to wear, so run whatever you will within reason and keep the oil changed and you'll be fine.
However, people that frequent motor oil forums are a different breed. Some of us keep cars longer than the average bear. Or we're driving some classic antique that we'd like to baby as much as possible.
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