Still More Lithium Ion Goodness

[billt460]

"Green Power!"......... Well, perhaps a little black and crusty around the edges.

NYC building fire caused by e-bike batteries, devices responsible for several fires in recent weeks

An e-bike battery was determined to be the cause of a building fire in New York City, officials said Monday, making it the latest blaze caused by lithium-ion batteries used to power electric bicycles and scooters.

www.foxnews.com

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Thousands of gasoline cars burn every year but it doesn't make the news because nobody cares.

 

[Spyderman24_7]

On a positive note at least that's less e-bikes to deal with on the road, lmao... Lithium can be quite volatile regardless of safety precautions incorporated.

 

[Boomer]

Probably cheap Chinese batteries where cost, not performance or safety, was the driving force in their construction.

 

[Cujet]

Thousands of gasoline cars burn every year but it doesn't make the news because nobody cares.

The difference is that (despite some very rare claims) they don't spontaneously combust while parked and cold.

 

[billt460]

Probably cheap Chinese batteries where cost, not performance or safety, was the driving force in their construction.

You mean just like the other 80% they manufacture worldwide?

"China is by far the leader in the battery race with nearly 80% of global Li-ion manufacturing capacity. The country also dominates other parts of the battery supply chain, including the mining and refining of battery minerals like lithium and graphite."

Mapped: EV Battery Manufacturing Capacity, by Region

Which countries are leading the race for EV batteries?

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[PimTac]

You mean just like the other 80% they manufacture worldwide?

"China is by far the leader in the battery race with nearly 80% of global Li-ion manufacturing capacity. The country also dominates other parts of the battery supply chain, including the mining and refining of battery minerals like lithium and graphite."

Mapped: EV Battery Manufacturing Capacity, by Region

Which countries are leading the race for EV batteries?

www.visualcapitalist.com

And part of the reason for that is that they are the worlds largest automobile market and around 13% of China vehicle sales are electric. The electric demand is very high there.

 

[wpod]

What ever it takes to make the Tv watchers think electric vehicles are saving the Earth.

 

[brianl703]

Probably cheap Chinese batteries where cost, not performance or safety, was the driving force in their construction.

It's not just the battery, it's how the battery is physically and electrically protected. Both areas in which an e-bike is more likely to skimp than an EV.

 

[Boomer]

They may be leaders in EV and car batteries but I seriously doubt that an E-bike battery is on the same level as a car lithium battery. I would put them in the same category as counterfeit spark plugs!

 

[billt460]

They're cooking in the garages.



And they're cooking in the elevators.



And they're cooking right on the street.

 

[PimTac]

They may be leaders in EV and car batteries but I seriously doubt that an E-bike battery is on the same level as a car lithium battery. I would put them in the same category as counterfeit spark plugs!

Two different things. Bikes are hugely popular in Asia so the E bike is a smart addition to the lineup.

 

[brianl703]

Two different things. Bikes are hugely popular in Asia so the E bike is a smart addition to the lineup.

Are they engineered to be as cheap as possible? (By the sort of people that would leave a 10 cent thermal protector out of a hair dryer because it works just fine without one?)

 

[UncleDave]

On a positive note at least that's less e-bikes to deal with on the road, lmao... Lithium can be quite volatile regardless of safety precautions incorporated.

It took Boeing a long time to get it right.

I've had Makita lithium cordless tool batteries for about a decade have hundreds of deep cycles on them - never a problem.

I only care about "green" when it makes business sense.

 

[sk_pete]

U.S. highway vehicle fires 1980-2021 | Statista

In 2021, there were around 174,000 highway vehicle fires reported in the United States.

www.statista.com

EVs have extremely low chance of catching fire – but hybrids much more risky

Electric cars are dramatically less likely to catch fire than other vehicles, while hybrids are the worst, new analysis has found.

thedriven.io

 

[PimTac]

Bikes are so popular in Asia they require parking solutions. You won’t see this here.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Thousands of gasoline cars burn every year but it doesn't make the news because nobody cares.

Remember those Pinto EVs? Or the side saddle pickup EVs? Why do you think they named it the Fiero EV?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

The difference is that (despite some very rare claims) they don't spontaneously combust while parked and cold.

Rare but it does occur.

Currently Kia/Hyundai are recalling 485,000 vehicles because they may spontaneously catch fire (ABS system)

 

[loneryder]

Thousands of gasoline cars burn every year but it doesn't make the news because nobody cares.

Spontaneously??

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Remember those Pinto EVs? Or the side saddle pickup EVs? Why do you think they named it the Fiero EV?

LOL.. Nor should we forget the Jeep Cherokee EV, the Ford Crown Vic EV, BMW diesel EV.