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Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
All the Starter fluids I've seen in Michigan say they contain top cylinder lube and 2 cycle included for use ??
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
All the Starter fluids I've seen in Michigan say they contain top cylinder lube and 2 cycle included for use ??
Having to start a 2 stroke or any gas engine with ether is covering up the real problem.
Leave the ether to diesels with no glow plugs.
Leave the ether to diesels with no glow plugs.
Originally Posted By: FastGame
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
All the Starter fluids I've seen in Michigan say they contain top cylinder lube and 2 cycle included for use ??
All of them?
Like what?
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
All the Starter fluids I've seen in Michigan say they contain top cylinder lube and 2 cycle included for use ??
All of them?
Like what?
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
I still feel these are not Ideal for a 12000 RPM 2 stroke.
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
I still feel these are not Ideal for a 12000 RPM 2 stroke.
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
I still feel these are not Ideal for a 12000 RPM 2 stroke.
As well as Johnsen's & Motor Medic (GUNK) and they say for all Gas & Diesel including chainsaws.
Now, I don't use starting fluid on my 2 cycle but in a pinch I don't think it will kill your motor....and I've never had a chain saw that started @12000 RPM.
STIHL saws have a procedure for starting (been covered here) and once you get that down there should be no problem, if not it should be taken back for service.
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
I still feel these are not Ideal for a 12000 RPM 2 stroke.
As well as Johnsen's & Motor Medic (GUNK) and they say for all Gas & Diesel including chainsaws.
Now, I don't use starting fluid on my 2 cycle but in a pinch I don't think it will kill your motor....and I've never had a chain saw that started @12000 RPM.
STIHL saws have a procedure for starting (been covered here) and once you get that down there should be no problem, if not it should be taken back for service.
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
The "choke lever" is actually the "master control" it has 4 positions. Stop (marked with O), Run (marked with I), half choke (pictogram of half open choke) and full choke (pictogram of closed choke).
If you look closely at the pictograms, the "half choke" is actually showing an open throttle plate -- note the curved sides in the "half choke" position representing the carb venturi. The "full choke" picture has parallel sides.
The "choke lever" is actually the "master control" it has 4 positions. Stop (marked with O), Run (marked with I), half choke (pictogram of half open choke) and full choke (pictogram of closed choke).
If you look closely at the pictograms, the "half choke" is actually showing an open throttle plate -- note the curved sides in the "half choke" position representing the carb venturi. The "full choke" picture has parallel sides.
Originally Posted By: FastGame
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
I still feel these are not Ideal for a 12000 RPM 2 stroke.
As well as Johnsen's & Motor Medic (GUNK) and they say for all Gas & Diesel including chainsaws.
Now, I don't use starting fluid on my 2 cycle but in a pinch I don't think it will kill your motor....and I've never had a chain saw that started @12000 RPM.
STIHL saws have a procedure for starting (been covered here) and once you get that down there should be no problem, if not it should be taken back for service.
I was not aware that so many Starter Fluids now have some kind of Lubricant, So I stand Corrected!
And while I guess that I Should not have said 12000rpm, Some of my saws still start pretty fast.
Should I ever have to start one with "Starting Fluid"
I'd probably just put some TruFuel in a squeeze bottle.....
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: 123Saab
Why does a brand new saw need starter fluid?
And you know Starter fluid has no lubricant.....Right?
I agree that a brand new anything should not need fluid.
But this has some lubricant:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ier=525386_0_0_
As does this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...ifier=7877_0_0_
I also don't think a few revolutions without lube on a cold engine would hurt anything either. Now if you have to use it al the time that's a different story.
I still feel these are not Ideal for a 12000 RPM 2 stroke.
As well as Johnsen's & Motor Medic (GUNK) and they say for all Gas & Diesel including chainsaws.
Now, I don't use starting fluid on my 2 cycle but in a pinch I don't think it will kill your motor....and I've never had a chain saw that started @12000 RPM.
STIHL saws have a procedure for starting (been covered here) and once you get that down there should be no problem, if not it should be taken back for service.
I was not aware that so many Starter Fluids now have some kind of Lubricant, So I stand Corrected!
And while I guess that I Should not have said 12000rpm, Some of my saws still start pretty fast.
Should I ever have to start one with "Starting Fluid"
I'd probably just put some TruFuel in a squeeze bottle.....
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