So you bought a new house, and the builders so called plumber did this...

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If I saw this in a new house I was going to buy, I would run. You can't make this kind of stuff up. That can't be a licensed plumber who did that. The secondary pan was not even sealed to the first pan. What else is hidden behind walls like that?


 
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That was pretty bad. I have seen a lot in my plumbing career. I remember the worst plumber in my area. He would do shoddy work and ridiculous things such as plumbing in a water heater backwards.

He went on to become a county plumbing inspector. What can I say.......
 
But yet you'll get no end to plumbers complaining about homeowners doing their own work and bragging about how much they made on the job. Same for HVAC people, same for electricians. They act like they are gods gift to the homeowner and then there are those that do stuff like the video.
 
That can't be a licensed plumber who did that.
In home construction where one builder does dozens or hundreds of homes, are they actually using licensed electricians, plumbers, etc or do general contractors do much of that work ? You don't have to be "licensed", if I'm not mistaken to do it and as long as it passes inspection, it goes. Our house is a little over 20 years old and I've discovered a couple "issues" with the electric work. I've replaced all of the outlets with a lot of commercial-grade ones as well as all of the switches with Decora-style (including many smart switches). Downstairs, everything is great. Upstairs, I found many devices with the shepard hooks backwards or (2) wires under one screw in a few devices. Tells me a different person did some of the wiring upstairs, for sure, and yes, I fixed everything. The electric panel appears well done to me and still has the city's "inspection" tag on it.
 
In home construction where one builder does dozens or hundreds of homes, are they actually using licensed electricians, plumbers, etc or do general contractors do much of that work ? You don't have to be "licensed", if I'm not mistaken to do it and as long as it passes inspection, it goes. Our house is a little over 20 years old and I've discovered a couple "issues" with the electric work. I've replaced all of the outlets with a lot of commercial-grade ones as well as all of the switches with Decora-style (including many smart switches). Downstairs, everything is great. Upstairs, I found many devices with the shepard hooks backwards or (2) wires under one screw in a few devices. Tells me a different person did some of the wiring upstairs, for sure, and yes, I fixed everything. The electric panel appears well done to me and still has the city's "inspection" tag on it.
Well a license isn't a guarantee if good work. Besides these production builders are extremely price sensitive and bid the work accordingly. Another thing is that the builders prioritize interior living space over a logical layout for running utilities and HVAC. Back in 2014 we looked at some new townhomes which were going for around $700k. The duct work for the HVAC and range hood was horrendous. The builder used the shallowest floor joists they could get away with.
 
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