So then why not just one oil???

For most, one weight would be fine.

For me, I am a clearance/sale oil buyer, so my oil weight and brand vary by what is on sale.
But my vehicles really are not picky on what oil I use.

I have decided to no longer buy an xW-20 oils and stick with xW-30 and xW-40 oils.
I still have a little 0W-20 and 5W-20 oil (2 more changes left) with the bulk of my oil being almost evenly split between 5W-30 and 10W-30. I have 1 change of 0w-40 and one change of 10w-40.
 
Because there is a difference between "will work OK" and "optimized for specific goals".

Isn't this just another veiled thick v. thin topic, which has been hashed and thrashed to the end of the Earth and back already?
So should we delete all other lube threads and make your thread the single one only available to all people?

Why not just one filter for all engines?
Why not just one cartridge for all firearms?
Why not just one tire size for all vehicles?
Why not just one size of shirt for all grown males?
Why not just one size TV for all rooms?
Why not just one container for all foods at the market?
Etc ...

Are you serious or just yanking our collective chain?

Well I am new here, and didn't know this would cause some to have a temper tantrum.

But for simplicity sake it would be great to have a lot less filter sizes, tire sizes, etc.
A world with say 3 sizes of air and oil filters would be wonderful, small, medium, and large.
Say 10 tire sizes to fit everything from an accord to Ram 3500.
Less oils, coolants, brake fluids, and more.
100% for that.

Let me suggest that in the future, if reading a thread makes you this angry, for your own health, just log out, and take up a calm hobby.
 
How many people really need the 0w rating - do you all live in Siberia? The OEM’s have cursed us all by having one spec for every climate so we’re all stuck with too much VII or running an older formulation.

In winter, starting at -40 is sometimes required here.
 
I run M 1 0W-40 in the 2006 4 cyl Toyota Tacoma, the 2010 Focus and the 2018 Ford F350 gas engine and used to run Quaker state 5W-40 in the 2015 Ford F150 with the 2.7 engine but now run M1 0W-40 since the formulation change.

Is that the oil that says European Car formula on the jug?

I was thinking about it myself, for everything gas powered, from outboards, quad, to cars, and lawn mowers.
 
Because there is a difference between "will work OK" and "optimized for specific goals".

Isn't this just another veiled thick v. thin topic, which has been hashed and thrashed to the end of the Earth and back already?
So should we delete all other lube threads and make your thread the single one only available to all people?

Why not just one filter for all engines?
Why not just one cartridge for all firearms?
Why not just one tire size for all vehicles?
Why not just one size of shirt for all grown males?
Why not just one size TV for all rooms?
Why not just one container for all foods at the market?
Etc ...

Are you serious or just yanking our collective chain?
not particularly the kind of reasoned reply that i would expect from a bitog “staff member” to a not unreasonable question.

interoperability, simplicity of maintenance and commonality of supply is a tenet of well-run military organizations, for example. there is nothing wrong about almost all the ink in almost every ballpen in the world being the same. most consumers, not all, would be best served by having a full oil sump that is regularly changed with one good-enough motor oil.

off-topic from motor oil, my own pet peeve is different safety standards around the world for sometimes the exact same make/model of car (just look at canada/usa). one basic international safety standard and just imagine the great cars that we could easily import into north america.
 
Judging from my local Walmart 5w-30 is pretty close to the universal oil with nearly every brand's shelf spot swept clean on a daily basis. It has forced me to buy whatever is available at times and I have recently had to do several mix and match oil changes. Count me in the group that can't understand why we need hundreds of different oil filter sizes and specs.
 
Count me in the group that can't understand why we need hundreds of different oil filter sizes and specs.
There are some specifically guilty parties.

Honda has pretty much a single filter I think.

Nissan has a Short and long - there essentially the same filter just with a different can length. Typical Nissan, probably couldn't decide.

H/K has a canister and a can - so two. They can't decide if they want to copy Toyota or Honda, or maybe when Toyota didn't want the canister anymore they changed there mind also :)

I think everyone else needs to come up with a new filter for every new vehicle.
 
I had thought about op's question and may have even posted or started a thread in the past. Can't recall but It's logical to think that:
  • 0W rating for best cold temp coverage.
  • 40 viscosity is a solid choice for high temp coverage.
Therefore why not 0W-40 for everything?

Since lots of bitog members dance (I hate dancing btw), I'm sure they don't want to wear their high HTHS hiking boots on the dance floor or go bowling with.

If you wear your dancing shoes for hiking, it will leak and slide like 0W does in old cars. lol
 
I have stuff that needs O at its low, some that need 40 as its high, and some that actually ask for 0w40 specifically.
That was why I started thinking about it.
If 0w40 will work in everything, it saves a lot of hassle.
Right now I have 0w40, 5w30, and 10w40.
 
The more I read about oil on here, honestly the more questions I have.
Instead of so many types, weights, etc.
Why not just sell full synthetic 0W40 for all cars?
It wouldn't fit the goal of obtaining ever increasing max fuel mileage CAFE targets. That's why all future ICE cars/trucks will most likely end up all specifying 0W-8 or 0W-16. That will become the "one oil". 😄

But when you have a choice of what oil to use, a 0W-40 would pretty work in about every application and climate.
 
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You're probably right about the 0w oils, however, consider all these vehicles with the auto start/stop function. These engines are going through a startup cycle (warm start obviously) 100 times more often than those that don't, I'd want a 0w in these engines to get that oil moving as fast as physic's-ly possible.
If the car is going through auto start/stop cycles, the oil is most likely already warmed up pretty good. Besides, the PD oil pump ensures that the oil "gets moving" to all force fed engine components regardless of the viscosity, especially when the oil is already warmed up some.
 
I do basically what the op implies. I run mobil euro 0w40 in everything(3.6 pentastar, 2.7 ecoboost, 5.7 sbc, 5.0sbc, 5.3ls, all the ope) except my 12v cummins

It's cheap in the 12qt boxes at wally. I keep 3 on hand
 
It wouldn't fit the goal of obtaining ever increasing max fuel mileage CAFE targets. That's why all future ICE cars/trucks will most likely end up all specifying 0W-8 or 0W-16. That will become the "one oil". 😄

But when you have a choice of what oil to use, a 0W-40 would pretty work in about every application and climate.

Not something that I even think about.
When they need gas, I fill them up.
Have never calculated how many MPG my cars, quads, boars, or pickups get.
My girl who is only 6 now, loves my Prowler. When she turns 20 I plan to give it to her, hopefully still in mint condition.
I drive it probably 20 days a year or less, otherwise its in my garage. Someone recently asked me what it gets for MPG or kms per liter. They seemed shocked when my answer was that I had no idea. All I can say is that it doesn't seem to use much.
 
interisting to note,why does mobil not make a say 0w-35 energy eff oil with sp-gf-6 etc,,,the mobil super car buster listed is really good,just a bit too thick??,
 
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