Semantics vs Contract Law: UAW vs GM
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Originally Posted by Dinoburner
The hue and cry today is Corporate is greedy and heartless and unions are communists. The facts are GM must respond to market conditions as do any manufacturing business. That said GM possibly could gear up to continue manufacturing what will sell but for the bean counters who must insure that profits will continue to be made while being competitive. Unions will need to find a way to convince corporate that they can help find solutions. Realistically that will never happen, the entrenched animosity on both sides will prevail.
The 35 years I paid dues in both large and small locals informs my belief that the status quo will not change. While we had a certain amount respect for each other we were always aware of where we sat.
Look what's happening in Erie, PA with Wabtec (formerly GE Transportation) employees on strike because new company wants changes.
https://www.goerie.com/news/20190227/erie-union-calls-it-lockout-wabtec-calls-it-strike
The hue and cry today is Corporate is greedy and heartless and unions are communists. The facts are GM must respond to market conditions as do any manufacturing business. That said GM possibly could gear up to continue manufacturing what will sell but for the bean counters who must insure that profits will continue to be made while being competitive. Unions will need to find a way to convince corporate that they can help find solutions. Realistically that will never happen, the entrenched animosity on both sides will prevail.
The 35 years I paid dues in both large and small locals informs my belief that the status quo will not change. While we had a certain amount respect for each other we were always aware of where we sat.
Look what's happening in Erie, PA with Wabtec (formerly GE Transportation) employees on strike because new company wants changes.
https://www.goerie.com/news/20190227/erie-union-calls-it-lockout-wabtec-calls-it-strike
Take over a business/factory/facility under Oz law, and you have to abide by the collective bargaining agreement until it's end date is reached...after all, you knew about it (In Oz, I can find any collective agreement that currently and formerly exists for any company).
I can understand the position that it's not a refusal to work, as the agreement is extant.
I can understand the position that it's not a refusal to work, as the agreement is extant.
Just FWIW Mary Barra's total compensation for last year was 21.96 Million dollars.
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its not language people commonly use. legal yes correct yes
familiar? no.
U.S. ceos make way too much money, compared to Japan -dollars vs worker wages.
they also made way too much in the 70s and 80s when they were asleep and GM was making junk, and CEOs were blind to the junk they made-- letting the Japanese in. MAny customers left and never came back
familiar? no.
U.S. ceos make way too much money, compared to Japan -dollars vs worker wages.
they also made way too much in the 70s and 80s when they were asleep and GM was making junk, and CEOs were blind to the junk they made-- letting the Japanese in. MAny customers left and never came back
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I have purchased two VWs built in Mexico over the past 5 years. On both, the fit and finish was fantastic. The paint job on each was flawless. Neither vehicle ever went in for warranty work and both performed as they should. I guess it all comes down to how the company involved sets up a plant and operates it. Operation must include a valued relationship with the folks who staff the plant. A sense of pride and being an appreciated member of a team goes a long way to making a great product.
GM builds crap. They did it 30 years ago and they still do it now.
My Cadillac has less than 55,000 miles and has had to have the entire CUE computer replaced at $1800, rear suspension compressor replaced at $480, rear shocks replaced at $1250. Headliner is falling down inside. Headlight bulb replaced at $440. Nothing covered under warranty. Replacement parts cost twice what they should.
GM builds crap.
Last GM car or truck I will ever own.
My Cadillac has less than 55,000 miles and has had to have the entire CUE computer replaced at $1800, rear suspension compressor replaced at $480, rear shocks replaced at $1250. Headliner is falling down inside. Headlight bulb replaced at $440. Nothing covered under warranty. Replacement parts cost twice what they should.
GM builds crap.
Last GM car or truck I will ever own.
2000K is 2.0 million, is 2,000,000. I am not so sure how anyone could possibly think it means anything else but.
Originally Posted by Oily_Thing
GM builds crap. They did it 30 years ago and they still do it now.
My Cadillac has less than 55,000 miles and has had to have the entire CUE computer replaced at $1800, rear suspension compressor replaced at $480, rear shocks replaced at $1250. Headliner is falling down inside. Headlight bulb replaced at $440. Nothing covered under warranty. Replacement parts cost twice what they should.
GM builds crap.
Last GM car or truck I will ever own.
I'm getting a Grand Sport later this year, hopefully its not a piece of [censored] on 4 wheels.
2000K term is correct.... but most people express that number differently. For financial reports is standard practice.
GM builds crap. They did it 30 years ago and they still do it now.
My Cadillac has less than 55,000 miles and has had to have the entire CUE computer replaced at $1800, rear suspension compressor replaced at $480, rear shocks replaced at $1250. Headliner is falling down inside. Headlight bulb replaced at $440. Nothing covered under warranty. Replacement parts cost twice what they should.
GM builds crap.
Last GM car or truck I will ever own.
I'm getting a Grand Sport later this year, hopefully its not a piece of [censored] on 4 wheels.
2000K term is correct.... but most people express that number differently. For financial reports is standard practice.
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Originally Posted by Dinoburner
The hue and cry today is Corporate is greedy and heartless and unions are communists. The facts are GM must respond to market conditions as do any manufacturing business. That said GM possibly could gear up to continue manufacturing what will sell but for the bean counters who must insure that profits will continue to be made while being competitive. Unions will need to find a way to convince corporate that they can help find solutions. Realistically that will never happen, the entrenched animosity on both sides will prevail.
The 35 years I paid dues in both large and small locals informs my belief that the status quo will not change. While we had a certain amount respect for each other we were always aware of where we sat.
Look what's happening in Erie, PA with Wabtec (formerly GE Transportation) employees on strike because new company wants changes.
https://www.goerie.com/news/20190227/erie-union-calls-it-lockout-wabtec-calls-it-strike
Thats an interesting situation in Erie, if production continues the rank and file will have serious problems. This is going on continuously and will not end well. As wages continue drop desperation will settle in. Just look at any prospectus by any large entity whether a bank, insurance company or manufacturer and the top echelon are well taken of which is fine but don`t take it out of pockets of those who actually do the work.
Originally Posted by Dinoburner
The hue and cry today is Corporate is greedy and heartless and unions are communists. The facts are GM must respond to market conditions as do any manufacturing business. That said GM possibly could gear up to continue manufacturing what will sell but for the bean counters who must insure that profits will continue to be made while being competitive. Unions will need to find a way to convince corporate that they can help find solutions. Realistically that will never happen, the entrenched animosity on both sides will prevail.
The 35 years I paid dues in both large and small locals informs my belief that the status quo will not change. While we had a certain amount respect for each other we were always aware of where we sat.
Look what's happening in Erie, PA with Wabtec (formerly GE Transportation) employees on strike because new company wants changes.
https://www.goerie.com/news/20190227/erie-union-calls-it-lockout-wabtec-calls-it-strike
Thats an interesting situation in Erie, if production continues the rank and file will have serious problems. This is going on continuously and will not end well. As wages continue drop desperation will settle in. Just look at any prospectus by any large entity whether a bank, insurance company or manufacturer and the top echelon are well taken of which is fine but don`t take it out of pockets of those who actually do the work.
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