Sealed lead acid batteries? Any brands better than others?

More Misinformation, stated as fact.

Thank you for proving my point.

Yes, they are VRLA, but they are also AGM.

Says so right in the second line in their marketing.


In deep cycle use it is best to regularly be able charge them at upto their 30% rate, or nearly 4 amps for this 12 AH battery, and then hold them at 14.5 to 14.9v, until amps taper to 0.06, if they ever taper that low.

I exceed this rate often by huge amounts, nearly each and every deep cycle and my small VRLA AGMS behave well. They charge nearly as quickly as when new and have nearly the same voltage retention powering loads as they did when new, and I have the tools and interest to observe this occurring, time after time, when discharging and recharging.

They will perform better for longer and last longer in deep cycle usage when their 27% to 30% maximum rate is met.

High amperage forces migration of the electrolyte through the glass matting into the plates. Low and slow trickle charges with too little a finishing voltage, will never complete the task, once the battery has gained some age, and they will gain age faster when only treated to a timid low voltage low amperage recharge regimen that the lawyers deemed safe and the bean counters seconded as overall cheaper regardless of what the lawyers care about.

If they are lightly cycled then it matters much much less what the charger does, but when they are drained well below 50% it is extremely important to charge them fully, promptly, and occasionally, at a much higher rate, even one well over the stated lawyerly safe maximums.

Charging source has to bring them to the mid 14's for a period of time. that time depends on teh amperage rate which brought them there, and their age/condition..

One Can't fully charge a well depleted lead acid battery in less than 5.5 hours and once older its more like 8.5+ hours even with high amperage source seeking and holding high voltage and near end of life it is closer to 14 hours.

If one is not going to bother insuring their charger can meet what the lead acid battery desires in a specific use, the best they can do is plug in the charger promptly after any level of discharge and hopefully until the next time the battery is required to be used, 12+ hours later. The 12 hours of charge time, is the basis for the 10% rate, It s not a magical balance that if one exceeds or come short of, things explode.

Either one does the best with what one has, or increases the ability of their charging sources, or just replaces the batteries far more often that would otherwise be required.

But it is not horrible quality batteries failing prematurely, it is over discharging, poor charger, along with poor charging habits that are almost entirely responsible for poor battery lifespan.

Do not low and slow charge AGM batteries in deep cycle usage, time after time. They occassionally need the high amp blast and the absolute true full charge and best is one leads to the other.

PSOC usage of lead acid batteries quickly destroys their capacity and makes the provided charging source more and more inadequate.

Some of these smaller VRLA AGMS are marketed for deep cycle, some are for high rate applications, some of their marketers will proudly say both. I think it's all marketing BS, and if they weigh the same in the same case dimensions the internals are made the same, the difference is perhaps only the strength of the electrolyte saturating the glass matting. Stronger acid means better short term performance but lesser duration.
 
Whatever charging regimen the OP's family member used with the original batts was good enough to last 4 years.
Then the replacement batteries, presumably using the same charging, only lasted a year.
So either something was wrong about the replacements (wrong type or stale),
or wrong about their installation (not properly balanced for series connection.)
 
Is the OP going to teach his gramma the 50 steps to properly maintaining this battery or should we expect her to simply use the darned scooter and plug it in when it gets low???

A reasonable expectation would be to have her plug the thing in every night if it’s convenient and unplug it every morning.
 
The first set of batteries which lasted years likely, lived their life at a much higher average state of charge than the second.

Rather than this obvious and likely scenario, the batteries are being blamed, when it was their usage and undercharging regimen thats likely 100% responsible for their poor lifespan.

No lead acid battery is immune from living its life chronically undercharged. No matter who made it or who marketed it or who has an anecdote that such and such a battery lasted 15 years.

No one lead acid battery is going to survive overdischarging/chronic undercharging significantly better than another.
Even if one attains a true dedicated deep cycle battery, such a battery, if they were recharged correctly, would attain many many more deep cycles before wearing out.
But if starting and deep cycle batteries are treated to the same chronic undercharging, over discharging lather rinse repeat partial state of charge cycling, , both will become equally useless in the same time span.

What would be ideal for maximum battery longevity is hardly ever worth the effort, but one should at least know what Ideal is, and then decide how much effort they want to expend in achieving something towards ideal.

I've outlined ideal.

You are welcome to argue what is good enough, but not what is ideal, as it is well established what is ideal.

The simple instruction to plug in more often and more promptly after use could allow the next set of batteries to live a respectable lifespan, saving time and money and wasting less.

But that's not the world we live in.

The consumer is never wrong,........ even when they almost always are.
 
when you replace them measure the voltage as it charges and esp float.
had a ups that was hitting 16v in float per 12v battery.
they wanted 13.5-13.8.
owner of the ups wondered why it killed a set of batteries every 6 months.
they were hitting thermal runaway and literally melting.
 
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