Santa Monica is in trouble

[Vil_Riker]

I agree with you but want to clarify something. Afghanistan supplied herion for the money. China supplies fentanyl as a means of warfare.

Scott

I think you are missing the point here.

 

[slo town]

I think you are missing the point here.

I may be, so explain to me. I'm not throwing stones.

But just in case your referring to America's "addicted population"....yes, I agree. If there's no market for drugs they won't find their way here. So in that sense it's on us.

Scott

 

[Pew]

I think you are missing the point here.

Our alphabet agencies are all for drug, human, and weapons trafficking.

 

[kuznetzovcvg]

There are many kinds of "homeless". Those living in RVs, those living in motels, those living in friend's living room sleeping on their couches, those on the streets, in tents, etc.

The ones who are not on the streets typically have jobs, do well in life other than can't afford rents or don't want to throw money at rents. The biggest "homeless" problems are the ones on drugs and mentally ill. They have a lot of public sanitation problem and they cause a lot of public safety problem. You sometimes see families coming to Tenderloin to look for their addict kids, and they would refuse to go home because "it is their freedom". There is nothing the police can do about it as long as you make it legal to be an addict and it is legal for them to be on the street if that's their choices (they can't do drugs in homeless shelter and they have curfew).

So, unless we can make it illegal and force them to pick detox or institutionalized, you can't solve this problem. (You can't help people who don't want to be helped). Or, we can be like Singapore and hand out automatic death penalty to dealers...

I was stationed in Singapore when I was in the Navy. They don’t put up with any scofflaws when it comes to breaking of their laws. When I was there in the mid 1990’s, the Singapore government hanged a Dutch businessman for attempting to smuggle drugs. They do not play.

 

[billt460]

I was stationed in Singapore when I was in the Navy. They don’t put up with any scofflaws when it comes to breaking of their laws. When I was there in the mid 1990’s, the Singapore government hanged a Dutch businessman for attempting to smuggle drugs. They do not play.

I remember that American kid over there in the 90's who got caught vandalizing a car. He got caned for doing it. Even though President Clinton tried to stop it. We could use some of that type of justice here..... Now.

 

[kuznetzovcvg]

I remember that American kid over there in the 90's who got caught vandalizing a car. He got caned for doing it. Even though President Clinton tried to stop it. We could use some of that type of justice here..... Now.

Agree. I was there when that knucklehead pulled that BS. It was very embarrassing. He got what he deserved. Singapore is a great place to live and visit. But being a gearhead, it’s the most expensive place to own a car.

 

[Pew]

I was stationed in Singapore when I was in the Navy. They don’t put up with any scofflaws when it comes to breaking of their laws. When I was there in the mid 1990’s, the Singapore government hanged a Dutch businessman for attempting to smuggle drugs. They do not play.

Unless you're laundering; they're one of the top countries to launder money through.

 

[billt460]

They don't have a drug problem because they killed all the drug dealers. Sounds cheap, effective, and efficient.

 

[Number_35]

I remember that American kid over there in the 90's who got caught vandalizing a car. He got caned for doing it. Even though President Clinton tried to stop it. We could use some of that type of justice here..... Now.

I was thinking about that reading this thread. IIRC, his name was Michael Fay.

 

[wpod]

One would think the cv demic would have cleaned up the home population.

 

[Number_35]

I feel that way about California....and the last time I was in California....in 1985....it was a paradise.
BTW....What 'experiences' are you talking about?...or are you just generalizing without any actual 'experiences'?

We lived in NZ for a year (2003/04). While there I took a short sailing course, and in the course of that met an older American ex-pat. He had been born in California and said that from 1946 to 1975 it was the best place in the world, but that he saw it going downhill not long after that.

Sometime after that, he sailed across the Pacific to the North Island, and stayed. He said something like "I got a wife, step-kids, and a 3-legged dog named Tripod. I guess I'm permanent now".

 

[wpod]

A friend has a house across from a park. Homeless people park their RV's right in front of their house, and sit outside in lawn chairs, often in their front yard. The police in town, who are NOT homeless friendly, said there is not much they can do. Worst part, the homeless people know everything going on in their home: when they get home from work, when they go on vacation, etc. They even call out to my friend by name. It's scary to the point that my friend is thinking of moving.

The politicians and police are the real problem .

 

[Number_35]

All the roofers and painters around here are from Guatemala. I've been to Guatemala and say I don't blame them at all for coming to the USA. Poor government results in a few rich folks and most in poverty.

I want to put in a plug for Guatemalans here - our church has a significant number of Guatemalan ex-pats, and they are outstanding people - kind, hard-working, loving, generous, and intelligent. I understand why they left, and can only say Guatemala's loss is our gain.

 

[pbm]

Horrible tort law and rampant insurance fraud have caused many insurers to pull out of the state.

The politicians and police are the real problem .

The politicians CONTROL the police....

 

[PWMDMD]

I want to put in a plug for Guatemalans here - our church has a significant number of Guatemalan ex-pats, and they are outstanding people - kind, hard-working, loving, generous, and intelligent. I understand why they left, and can only say Guatemala's loss is our gain.

I went to residency with several South and Central Americans who originally trained in their home countries and they were excellent dentists and even better people. By even better people I mean I would trust them implicitly with my family and my money. Truly good, salt of the earth people, who were raised with morals and ethics.

One of my best friends is from Costa Rica and her husband is from Guatemala. She speaks absolutely perfect English with no detectable accent whatsoever because when she was a teenager the best-paying jobs were at call centers and the more American you sounded the more in demand you were. She now has an MBA from Boston College and works in biotech and again I would give her the keys to my car or home without question if she said she needed them. They are just good and caring people.

 

[PandaBear]

I remember that American kid over there in the 90's who got caught vandalizing a car. He got caned for doing it. Even though President Clinton tried to stop it. We could use some of that type of justice here..... Now.

When the parents didn't do their jobs, it is up to the foreign governments.

 

[PandaBear]

The politicians and police are the real problem .

That's most places on earth, including the civilized and wealthy part of the world as well.

 

[daves87rs]

"Camps"..... "Give them money and drugs". Just keep throwing taxpayer dollars at the problem.

Seriously? Do you really think this is ANY kind of a, "solution"? Our national debt currently sits at over $34 TRILLION dollars. And it's rising like a rocket. We have had illegals literally pouring unchecked across our southern border for the last 3-1/2 years.

While homelessness and crime are rising to off the chart levels in our major cities. With L.A. and San Francisco being 2 of the worst. And you think throwing taxpayer money we don't have at the problem is going to stop it, let alone make it go away? That's insanity. It would only get worse. Why do you think these people came to California to begin with? It wasn't to get arrested and handcuffed.

Our economy would simply collapse. How much more financial abuse do you think it can possibly take? The only answer to this ungodly mess that has been created over the last several years is to :

1). Close our southern border.

2). Start strictly enforcing the law, and not allow these people to camp in the streets, and crap all over them. Or buy and use street drugs, turning public parks into dangerous cesspools.

3). Start detaining, and deporting the 9+ MILLION illegals who are currently being allowed to roam freely throughout our country, with absolutely zero accountability. And are a financial burden to EVERYONE who is paying taxes.

We have always had somewhat of an illegal invader problem. But now due to all of the progressive politics, along with the complete and total lack of law enforcement, many cities along the left coast are turning into crime ridden, drug infested stink holes. That are causing businesses that have existed for decades to close up and get out.

It took lax and foolish progressive thinking to create this entire stinking mess. Now, like it or not, admit it or not, it is going to take just the exact opposite to turn it around.

And whoever is bold enough to take this harsh, direct action, is going to have to put up with every far left raving lunatic screaming "racism", while they do it.

They can do whatever at this point- I’m only offering suggestions.

This is what happens when you take Darwin out of the equation……….

 

[kuznetzovcvg]

I was thinking about that reading this thread. IIRC, his name was Michael Fay.

You’re correct. He was/ is a douche nugget.

 

[daves87rs]

Exactly!

The veiled point(s) in my previous posts was searing contempt towards those city dwellers sympathetic to the homeless, the same city dwellers who installed and support the one party system we are plagued with in California.

Note that I say "plagued with". Get it, or is that still too subtle? Perhaps my thumbs up to @billt460's plan is more to the point and more clearly represents my personal views on the matter.

I wasn't exactly sure of your position on the matter last night, @dishdude, but take note. This post makes mine perfectly clear.

Scott

It’s cool. I hate both sides anyways. You know what they say about a good “party person”……

Both sides are in it for the money anyways.

The divide in this country is so strong I sense people doing some really dumb things.

To be fair, I can agree with some drastic change is needed.


But I also realize this is a sore subject. And will step off of it because I think highly our member “friendships” here….who else is going to send more beautiful pictures of Cali like that?