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So I finally have the SSD swap done: I haven't enabled rapid mode, etc, and don't have it on the max performance settings: I did migration using Samsung migration tool and not a clean install of Win 7, so boot time went from 2 min 7 seconds to about 45 seconds. (I timed this as pushing ON button and until after I have logged in and desktop was fully loaded and connected to wi-fi) Ran a benchmark test - no clue if this is good / bad / great...I really don't know what to compare to.
 
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Great scores! Those are great SSD's. I've been using them left and right at work to replace dying/dead hard drives. What's your surrounding hardware?
 
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Wow, that is a slow boot time for a SSD! My laptop with a standard hard drive takes about 45 seconds from power button on to logging on and connecting to wifi. How old is your computer?
 

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Thanks. It's not old at all, really. Lenovo T520, i7 Sandy Bridge, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit. 8GB RAM. FHD display. SATA III and AHCI is all enabled. I am just a bit worried that the boot times are not in 20 sec range as a lot of people yell about. But majority of those people probably did a clean install of Win 7 and didn't take all the bloatware and programs like i did to the new SSD....
 
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As long as it is peppy while using it, I woudln't be concerned about boot times. I don't know, maybe I just don't care. Maybe though... could your slower-than-normal boot times be related to any peripherals being initialized? I know my Drobo adds about 10-15 seconds because the BIOS waits for all of the drives to spin up and receive some type of message from the device. I installed the Samsung Magician on my system. I'm running an Intel 520 Cherryville 120GB SSD. About 2-1/2 years old now. Yours isn't bad at all, neither is mine.
 

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Yeah it's a LOT snappier while using the laptop. I wonder if I should run the Performance Optimization tool and see what it does. But I am sure it will do a lot of things that I don't know about..then i'll be worried about all THAT stuff. I hardly reboot, and just close the lid normally (goes to sleep).
 
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sometimes the boot times come from slow bios also, I had a desktop that took 19s to get to the windows LOADING screen. he also said 45s to get to a desktop with wifi connected.. that's not exactly a time to get to the login prompt there. How about timing it to the windows login screen? Thats a more comparable number.. I bet thats alot closer to 30s or less.
 
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Shall I make a video from cold boot to desktop? then you guys can time different sections and see/notice where bottle neck is...?
 
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Did you / can you defrag? I'd imagine that just because the HD was migrated over, doesn't mean that the blocks written to are optimized in location and order, even for a speedy ssd.
 

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I have disabled defrag uitility after installing the SSD, because i read that it's not needed for flash / SSD ? But the thing is the SSD is speedy as heck after booting... Let me make a video and upload here: Remember though, I still haven't enabled rapid mode NOR did run Samsung performance optimization for the SSD. I think the biggest hangup is in the "please wait" section before log-in prompt.
 

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BTW I also noticed that from a cold start it takes longer for wifi to connect - it gives me the red X and says no networks available, and then idles with a yellow exclamation mark for a bit and THEN connects - this did not happen before the SSD install... Waking up from sleep all is normal and connects immediately... any ideas why THAT happens? I read a similar post online - exact same problem; the guy thought SSD was somehow interfering with the wifi adapters antennas or something Oh and here;s what's still left in start up items: Anything else I can safely remove from startup? And there's like a 100 services and they are ALL checked in the SERVICES tab...
 
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Did you / can you defrag? I'd imagine that just because the HD was migrated over, doesn't mean that the blocks written to are optimized in location and order, even for a speedy ssd.
You don't want to defrag SSDs as it is unnecessary and puts a lot of wear and tear on the SSD.
 
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Originally Posted By: 97tbird
It's not old at all, really. Lenovo T520, i7 Sandy Bridge, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit. 8GB RAM. FHD display. SATA III and AHCI is all enabled. I am just a bit worried that the boot times are not in 20 sec range as a lot of people yell about. But majority of those people probably did a clean install of Win 7 and didn't take all the bloatware and programs like i did to the new SSD....
Yea, you have better specs than my laptop. Mine only has 4 GB of RAM. It could be that you didn't do a clean install, as over 2 minutes boot time with the regular hard drive is awful. My laptop has a pretty fresh install of Ubuntu on it (installed in early May).
 
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Do you have the latest Samsung Magician much beter than the older version. I have Sata 3gb is slower than the Sata 6gb. Previous rapid mode and new with max performance: Seq Read - 437 Seq Write - 392 Seq Read - 721 Seq Write - 723 Random Read - 28697 Random Write - 20370 Random Read - 34662 Random Write - 37346 It runs a bit smoother, I do notice an improvement.
 
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as over 2 minutes boot time with the regular hard drive is awful.
After a few years with regular hard drive, over 2 minutes boot is fairly normal, IMO. I've got an X230 with an i5 CPU and 8 GB RAM, and it also takes over 2 minutes to boot, closer to 3 minutes actually if you count up to the time when it actually becomes usable. The machine is 2 years old. It was certainly a lot faster when I bought it, but I don't see any unwanted junk in msconfig either. Still, I rarely ever do a full reboot, so it doesn't bother me much.
 
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avast is bloated and probably adds a few seconds. what happens is windows loads so fast now your wireless takes a min to connect and catch up. before it had time while the hdd was thrashing at startup to get connected. FWIW: I think current operation is very normal and the root cause is not a fresh install with windows loading a ton at startup.. and avast.
 
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Ah that makes sense with the wifi lagging a bit - It only happens from a cold boot, which I hardly do, so no biggie there. Any ideas as to which start up items I can safely take off from that list? (see screenshot provided in a post above) As for Avast, I thought it was known to have a small foot print...
 
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Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
Do you have the latest Samsung Magician much beter than the older version.
Yes. But I haven't enabled rapid mode at all, as I have read a lot about it being great for benchmark numbers, but its influence is small in normal daily operations.
 
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Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
Do you have the latest Samsung Magician much beter than the older version.
Yes. But I haven't enabled rapid mode at all, as I have read a lot about it being great for benchmark numbers, but its influence is small in normal daily operations.
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