Originally Posted By: eljefino
I'm daily driving my Firebird now, so that's my RWD fix.
I'm daily driving my Firebird now, so that's my RWD fix.
Sad, sad day... My Saturn is on death's door.
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
Focus uses the oddball 4x108MM ford-only bolt pattern. Well, there was a Volvo or two that used it.
I got mine brand new for around $12999 (less than that) in 2011.
The 12+ Focus got expensive.
I had a contour a while back that shared its bolt pattern with the tempo, or something like that. It was around 4x108.
GM's moved to 5x110 and 5x120 on a lot of their stuff. I think it's to block non-TPMS junkyard rims.
Focus uses the oddball 4x108MM ford-only bolt pattern. Well, there was a Volvo or two that used it.
I got mine brand new for around $12999 (less than that) in 2011.
The 12+ Focus got expensive.
I had a contour a while back that shared its bolt pattern with the tempo, or something like that. It was around 4x108.
GM's moved to 5x110 and 5x120 on a lot of their stuff. I think it's to block non-TPMS junkyard rims.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Omni GLHS?
Now you're talkin'.
Omni GLHS?
Now you're talkin'.
Time to put it out of its misery.
The Impala you mentioned may be worth looking for. Late 90's to mid 2K model years. When equipped with the 3.8, it was an awesome combo of power, mileage, ride and handling for not much $$$. If you can catch the transmission soon enough, drop a Trans Go kit in there and it'll last as long as the engine.
The Hyundai Elantra (XD platform) that was mentioned has been pretty solid and can be found cheap, but they are prone to cancer. Parts are pretty easy to find and they are generally easy to work on.
The Hyundai Elantra (XD platform) that was mentioned has been pretty solid and can be found cheap, but they are prone to cancer. Parts are pretty easy to find and they are generally easy to work on.
I went with the Focus wagon, and 1 year on, I don't have any real regrets. Love the cargo room but it's kind of flimsy and refined at the same time, as opposed to a cobalt or your HHR, which is more solid but less refined. Needs to have a manual to get reasonable mileage and I like to hustle it around for a corner or two on the commute and it doesn't complain about it.
Plentiful at the wreckers, and a little rust on the rockers will have the price way down. An SES will have heated seats too, which is nice for half the year.
Plentiful at the wreckers, and a little rust on the rockers will have the price way down. An SES will have heated seats too, which is nice for half the year.
If ChevyBoy can graduate to a new Focus from a dead Saturn, so can you! Don't listen to potential lecture from Pop; take out the 84 month loan just to spite him. You DESERVE it!
All kidding aside, $14K for new Focus is insane price. You should seriously consider it. Keeping one new car in the family is not a bad idea overall. Any used good running and reliable car would run you in $5K or higher. Pay the little extra and grab this.
All kidding aside, $14K for new Focus is insane price. You should seriously consider it. Keeping one new car in the family is not a bad idea overall. Any used good running and reliable car would run you in $5K or higher. Pay the little extra and grab this.
Originally Posted By: MDettling
Some ford sohc's like to drop valve seats. Once that happens, the car is almost worthless. Beware....
I have never heard of this happening.
Some ford sohc's like to drop valve seats. Once that happens, the car is almost worthless. Beware....
I have never heard of this happening.
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Originally Posted By: MDettling
Some ford sohc's like to drop valve seats. Once that happens, the car is almost worthless. Beware....
I have never heard of this happening.
If it weren't for the Internet you would be likely to never know this info.
Dodge has Hemis that do that too, about one in a million or so...
Originally Posted By: MDettling
Some ford sohc's like to drop valve seats. Once that happens, the car is almost worthless. Beware....
I have never heard of this happening.
If it weren't for the Internet you would be likely to never know this info.
Dodge has Hemis that do that too, about one in a million or so...
Originally Posted By: MDettling
Some ford sohc's like to drop valve seats. Once that happens, the car is almost worthless. Beware....
Good thing ford eliminated the CVH SOHC engine a long time ago, and there is no way the OP has one in his car.
I heard the same thing about valve seats in the MOPAR 3.7/4.7 SOHC, and somehow many are still going strong.
Some ford sohc's like to drop valve seats. Once that happens, the car is almost worthless. Beware....
Good thing ford eliminated the CVH SOHC engine a long time ago, and there is no way the OP has one in his car.
I heard the same thing about valve seats in the MOPAR 3.7/4.7 SOHC, and somehow many are still going strong.
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: Miller88
The 12+ Focus got expensive.
And significantly better once they started importing it(design).
Once they get rid of the horribly geared MTX-75 and replace it with a 5 speed transmission with better gearing or a 6 speed ... I'll take a look.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
The 12+ Focus got expensive.
And significantly better once they started importing it(design).
Once they get rid of the horribly geared MTX-75 and replace it with a 5 speed transmission with better gearing or a 6 speed ... I'll take a look.
Over the last two weeks I looked at a...
$300 2002 Saturn SL. Would have bought it but the kid had to send off for a replacement title. He thinks he'll have it in a week or two but it's more like a month and a half. Notable feature was its starter was kaput so he pulled off the spark plug wires. Also removed the clear plastic from the gauges and broke off every gauge needle so it's just nubs. I figured I could glue a toothpick to the speedometer nub to be legal...
Kid has my number and will call when the title comes in, because (I'm) sure I'm going to buy it, right? Well, I was sure, at that moment...
Then looked at a $800 1999 escort wagon with a gross evap leak, bad o2 sensor, and rust in front of the rear trailing arms. Nope, nope, nope.
Then a $600 sunfire with about 6 codes, rusted out rockers, a bad flexpipe, and a bad muffler. They mentioned the exhaust issues and tried blaming everything else on that. Nope, nope nope.
Today, a $1000 neon, 2005, with bondo on a rear fender and poorly repaired rockers. 149k miles. Stick shift, possibly working AC, takes my old saturn 20195 filters, takes my old saturn snow tires, clear on emissions, state inspected through next May.
Yeah, it's mine.
Has lousy summer tires on it, but new 185/65/14s are $35 at sears.
Stole this pic from the CL ad:
$300 2002 Saturn SL. Would have bought it but the kid had to send off for a replacement title. He thinks he'll have it in a week or two but it's more like a month and a half. Notable feature was its starter was kaput so he pulled off the spark plug wires. Also removed the clear plastic from the gauges and broke off every gauge needle so it's just nubs. I figured I could glue a toothpick to the speedometer nub to be legal...
Kid has my number and will call when the title comes in, because (I'm) sure I'm going to buy it, right? Well, I was sure, at that moment...
Then looked at a $800 1999 escort wagon with a gross evap leak, bad o2 sensor, and rust in front of the rear trailing arms. Nope, nope, nope.
Then a $600 sunfire with about 6 codes, rusted out rockers, a bad flexpipe, and a bad muffler. They mentioned the exhaust issues and tried blaming everything else on that. Nope, nope nope.
Today, a $1000 neon, 2005, with bondo on a rear fender and poorly repaired rockers. 149k miles. Stick shift, possibly working AC, takes my old saturn 20195 filters, takes my old saturn snow tires, clear on emissions, state inspected through next May.
Yeah, it's mine.
Has lousy summer tires on it, but new 185/65/14s are $35 at sears.
Stole this pic from the CL ad:
Congrats on the Neon! I had a '95 that took me through high school, college and every job I had up until my current one! Put 185k on it and still ran great when I sold it. Any idea when the timing belt was changed?
Enjoy the Neon! There was a great thread on another car site that begins with the letter between I and K about when those were first introduced a week or so ago.
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