Run PP Euro 5w40 for the winter or switch? (LL01)

[F30]

Hello,

Currently, I am running PP Euro 5w40, but was thinking of making a switch to either a 5w30 or 0w40 oil for the winter. Or should I continue to run the 5w30? Will be driving in Canadian winters, with the lowest temps being around -5C (23F). The car is a 2014 335i.

Thanks!

 

[RooflessVW]

Switching to a "thinner" oil with the same approval (LL-01) will not change anything. Oils with the same approval are functionally the same regardless of the grade printed on the bottle.

An LL-01FE would be a thinner oil, but at only 23°F I don't think there's any benefit.

 

[Popsy]

What, Canadian winter that goes down to -5°C only!!! Keep the 5W40, no problem.

 

[CumminsMech]

Agreed, with that winter temp the PP Euro 5w-40 will have zero issues. We've already been down to -11c here in Minnesota and I've had no problems at startup. That's with running a thick 5w-40 as well, Total Quartz 9000 Energy. I will be however be switching to a Ravenol 0w-30 soon just as an experiment over the winter. As I had some startup issues last year with BMW TPT 5w-30 below -25c.

 

[Craig in Canada]

Hello,

Currently, I am running PP Euro 5w40, but was thinking of making a switch to either a 5w30 or 0w40 oil for the winter. Or should I continue to run the 5w30? Will be driving in Canadian winters, with the lowest temps being around -5C (23F). The car is a 2014 335i.

Thanks!

Since the 2018 revision to LL-01 (no more 0W oils on the list) I've been running PP Euro 5W40 in my F10 535. No "issues", but it's garaged overnight not outside. I'm Toronto-ish so the colder snaps get us down to the -20s without making the news, worse from time to time.

 

[KCJeep]

The PP Euro is on the thin side for a 5w40 and is GTL as well. For those temps there is simply no reason to switch.

 

[edyvw]

Stick to PP 5W40.
But in N55 you really don’t need LL01. Run Castrol Edge 0W40 if you can find.

 

[Craig in Canada]

Stick to PP 5W40.
But in N55 you really don’t need LL01. Run Castrol Edge 0W40 if you can find.

Castrol 0W40 became discontinued up here or something like that, so I had to make another choice at the time. Then I fell down the LL-01 2018 and LL-04 sulphur rabbit hole, emerging with PP 5W40.

 

[mattwithcats]

Canadian Tire has Motor Master 0w-40 and 5W-40, which is Pennzoil Euro…

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pennzoil-platinum-euro-5w-40-full-synthetic-5-l-0289358p.html#srp

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-5w40-synthetic-engine-oil-5-l-0288720p.html#srp

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-oeplus-european-0w40-premium-synthetic-engine-oil-5-l-0287963p.html#srp

 

[Jim K]

I run PP in the bathroom.

 

[wpod]

What are we not understanding about oil viscosity?