Originally Posted By: Whitewolf
Lack of a licence shows that there is no guarantee of anything.
My experience is limited here, so take what I say for what it's worth.
In another post a lot of quality concerns were discussed about the Honda Z1 ATF. Amsoil makes a great Universal ATF, but it is "Recommended" for use in various applications in the same manner that Royal Purple's Max ATF is. Red Line also makes some well respected ATF variants, such as D4, which is "Recommended" for use in several applications. Same thing goes for Schaeffer's #204SAT, which is also "Recommended" for use in various applications. I couldn't find a single "Top Shelf" Universal ATF that was listed as being certified and/or licensed.
Amsoil states that they would rather not pay the high fees that would be required in order to say that their products are certified. The cost, they say, would simply end up being passed along to those of us who buy their products. I guess that Royal Purple feels the same way, but who knows. I sincerely doubt that Max ATF would fail to meet any of the quality standards required for certification, but then again I don't know a great deal when it comes to ATF.
Based on the above, does this mean that no one should feel comfortable using a Universal ATF from Amsoil, Red Line, Schaeffer's or Royal Purple?
One last observation, I have noticed that lubricant companies change their formulations all the time without notifying their customers. Look at all of the Mobil One Group III discussions on BITOG. True enough that Mobil One still maintains its certification, but my point is that changes take place without notice.
Lack of a licence shows that there is no guarantee of anything.
My experience is limited here, so take what I say for what it's worth.
In another post a lot of quality concerns were discussed about the Honda Z1 ATF. Amsoil makes a great Universal ATF, but it is "Recommended" for use in various applications in the same manner that Royal Purple's Max ATF is. Red Line also makes some well respected ATF variants, such as D4, which is "Recommended" for use in several applications. Same thing goes for Schaeffer's #204SAT, which is also "Recommended" for use in various applications. I couldn't find a single "Top Shelf" Universal ATF that was listed as being certified and/or licensed.
Amsoil states that they would rather not pay the high fees that would be required in order to say that their products are certified. The cost, they say, would simply end up being passed along to those of us who buy their products. I guess that Royal Purple feels the same way, but who knows. I sincerely doubt that Max ATF would fail to meet any of the quality standards required for certification, but then again I don't know a great deal when it comes to ATF.
Based on the above, does this mean that no one should feel comfortable using a Universal ATF from Amsoil, Red Line, Schaeffer's or Royal Purple?
One last observation, I have noticed that lubricant companies change their formulations all the time without notifying their customers. Look at all of the Mobil One Group III discussions on BITOG. True enough that Mobil One still maintains its certification, but my point is that changes take place without notice.
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