Rotella T5 10w30 questions

[04SE]

1. Is it a "friction modified" oil or could it be used in a wet clutch application?

2. Is there any reason to not use it in a car (2005 Impala w/ 3.8 L36) for an extended OCI? (Curious about zinc and the catalytic converter)

Thanks for the input.

 

[beast3300]

I don't believe it has the JASO MA spec on the back of the T5, it is on the T6 5w40. Somebody more familiar with motorcycles will chime in.

I use T5 in my L67 right now and have used T6 in it as well. You should be fine with it in the L36.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: 04SE
1. Is it a "friction modified" oil or could it be used in a wet clutch application?

It's marketed as an "energy saving" oil. This is typically a code word for a fair amount of friction modifiers, hence, this oil may not be the most wet clutch friendly.

But besides, does your bike even allow the use of Xw-30 oils?

 

[beast3300]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: 04SE
1. Is it a "friction modified" oil or could it be used in a wet clutch application?

It's marketed as an "energy saving" oil. This is typically a code word for a fair amount of friction modifiers, hence, this oil may not be the most wet clutch friendly.

But besides, does your bike even allow the use of Xw-30 oils?



T5 is not energy conserving. This is partially why I added MMO. Also I added MMO to thin it down some for colder weather.

 

[04SE]

Originally Posted By: beast3300
I don't believe it has the JASO MA spec on the back of the T5, it is on the T6 5w40. Somebody more familiar with motorcycles will chime in.

I use T5 in my L67 right now and have used T6 in it as well. You should be fine with it in the L36.


I am thinking hard about using it for 5k-6k in the Impala. My only concern is the zinc content and the catalytic converter. Zinc content is ~1,200.


Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: 04SE
1. Is it a "friction modified" oil or could it be used in a wet clutch application?

It's marketed as an "energy saving" oil. This is typically a code word for a fair amount of friction modifiers, hence, this oil may not be the most wet clutch friendly.

But besides, does your bike even allow the use of Xw-30 oils?



Honda actually recommends 10w30 across the entire temperature range. I can run 5w30 below like 50*F and they "allow" 10w40 above 90*F.

I am looking to kill two birds with one stone. It seems to be a stout and cost effective oil.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: beast3300
T5 is not energy conserving.

Product brochure has "energy saving" plastered all over it, whatever it means.

 

[Turk]

"Energy Saving"

Here ya go, guys...

 

[beast3300]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: beast3300
T5 is not energy conserving.

Product brochure has "energy saving" plastered all over it, whatever it means.


I believe that is just to market T5 in 15w40 applications because it is thinner than 15w40. So of course T5 would use less fuel in a diesel vs 15w40 lmao. T5 has a Cst of 12@100c.

The 3800 will do 5-6k on peanut juice. It is very durable, easy on motor oil kind of engine. You won't have converter problems with T5's zinc.

 

[Turk]

The Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 demonstrated fuel economy savings of up to 1.6 percent in on-the-road field testing in medium-duty trucks. It also offers extended-drain capability.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: tpitcher
The Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 demonstrated fuel economy savings of up to 1.6 percent in on-the-road field testing in medium-duty trucks.


"...compared to Shell Rotella Triple Protection® 15W-40".

Beast3300 may be right. The energy savings come from running thinner oil, not necessarily from having friction modifiers. I guess there is a difference between "energy saving" and "energy conserving" in the marketing world.

 

[Turk]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: tpitcher
The Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 demonstrated fuel economy savings of up to 1.6 percent in on-the-road field testing in medium-duty trucks.


"...compared to Shell Rotella Triple Protection® 15W-40".

Beast3300 may be right. The energy savings come from running thinner oil, not necessarily from having friction modifiers. I guess there is a difference between "energy saving" and "energy conserving" in the marketing world.




Correct.

 

[addyguy]

This oil is NOT 'energy conserving' in the API 'S' category - if it were, it would say so on the bottom half of the API donut.

As said, it may well be 'enegy conserving' in diesel applications against other, thicker HDEO oils.