Marigold color? Yuck. Looks smaller than I thought. Gimme an F-150 2.7 any day.
Rivian sighting
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I've only seen pictures of them, but like um.
I think new 'electric' vehicles today with all the automation, LED lighting, unique storage areas
is a rebirth of the great designs we had in the 50's and 60's.
I think new 'electric' vehicles today with all the automation, LED lighting, unique storage areas
is a rebirth of the great designs we had in the 50's and 60's.
Jeff's just mad it's not a Tesla
The yellow is nice. Better than boring silver 
Yeah, not like that butt-ugly Cybertruk.
Actually I wanted to like the Rivian. But it is too small. Wifey told me it was marigold like old countertops.
I don't even know what marigold is... Sheesh.
From the side it was OK, at best. Did I mention it is too small?
Maybe it was a Maverick? No, that's an unfair dig on the Maverick.
The color was horrid. Orange-yellow? The light looks like a red stripe.The yellow is nice. Better than boring silver
It looks more like a kid's toy than a truck.
Saw one in our neighborhood a few weeks ago. No bad looking…definitely different.
I kind of like the look of the cybertruck. I don't like the Rivian's front bumper "toy" appearance and weird oval headlights.
However, both vehicles have that "simple stick figure" design quality. The Tesla really does look like a 4 year old bully drew it. The Rivian, like a 5 year old girl drew a stick-man face.
However, both vehicles have that "simple stick figure" design quality. The Tesla really does look like a 4 year old bully drew it. The Rivian, like a 5 year old girl drew a stick-man face.
School me. What does one of these marvels cost? My '94 Ranger has less than 200 hp and does fine. Why do E cars have so much HP?
The R1T starts around $68K. Electric motors have a flat torque curve, right off idle; they are not dependent on rpm like internal combustion engines.
The Rivian seems to be sized between a Ranger/Tacoma and an F150/Tundra. Rivian is 218 inches long, and the Tundra is nearly 230, the F150 SuperCrew 232. Bed is 55, where the F150 SupCrew is 66 and Tundra 67.
Batteries can "dump" power very rapidly, often around the 4C rate (a rate that would deplete the battery in 15 min). So why not use a motor, or even better, a series of motors to drive each wheel, that can take advantage of this? It makes for an amazingly pleasant driving experience. Instant response, no downshifting, no turbo lag. Just any amount of power you want, at each wheel, with perfect control.
Before we get too critical on HP, keep in mind that a common vehicle can "accelerate" at specific rates in multiple directions. For example:
1) Braking is 1G or more
2 Cornering is 0.7G to 0.9G
3 Acceleration is 0.25G or less
Also, EV's fall short in other ways, such as real world range, charge times and price. In some ways, having a few epic advantages is a great thing for EV sales. But let's be honest, the price of the Rivian is so high, and its real world "work" limits so low, it is just a luxury/performance/boutique runabout.
These startup electric car companies are advancing so fast it's unbelievabe. I just watched a video on the Lucid Air and it was outstanding. It also seems the makers have a penchant for doing wierd things in the design department. The Lucid is a great looking car, but has a totally glass roof! That would be a no go here in Florida, and many other parts of the USA.
It must be a weight saving move is all I can think of. It can't be for safety.
Also price seems to be no object, Thanks again Elon.
It must be a weight saving move is all I can think of. It can't be for safety.
Also price seems to be no object, Thanks again Elon.
They need the high torque rating since most have no transmission. My Little Ecosport 4 cylinder
puts down 2500+ lb-ft or torque to the wheels in first gear - all possible due to a low first gear and and 3:51 final drive.
E cars only have the final drive to multiply the motor torque - if that.
That's true! Thanks for the clear point.
Price is no obstacle for early adopters. However, working stiffs like me can't spend two years salary on an EV. I want one badly for the epic performance. I'm one of those who never gets tired of good performance and hard acceleration. I don't own one, because a $24,000 Nissan Altima does what I actually need, and it does it better.
Shows what you guys know
"The most remarkable pickup truck we've ever driven." That's how we've previously described the 2022 Rivian R1T, and now it can claim even higher praise as the 2022 MotorTrend Truck of the Year.
and yeah it's a weird looking truck.
"The most remarkable pickup truck we've ever driven." That's how we've previously described the 2022 Rivian R1T, and now it can claim even higher praise as the 2022 MotorTrend Truck of the Year.
and yeah it's a weird looking truck.
I'd probably love driving one! That's not the issue and has never been. For starters, let me look back and see when my last raise was (looks like 2012) Then let's see how much time I have to waste at fickle charging stations with my 7 day per week job where real work is performed. Next, let's tally up the cost of a replacement battery in 10 years.
The Rivian with 180KWh battery pack (the only size that starts to make sense) is now expected to be right at $80,000 to start and $91K with options.
I thought so.
This was last night, we changed a NIC card, due to MRC2 fail (radios/transponders) and are testing the transponder with the test set. My job is to chase this and 5 other aircraft around, and fix them. I carry supplies, parts, jacks, tires/wheels, and all manner of tools and occasionally tow the helicopter dolly 1300 miles. The pickup truck is, quite simply, the ideal tool for the job.
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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...e-test-against-2022-toyota-tundra-180914.html
So, the R1T will in fact tow something, and rather well, just not as far as a gas powered truck. Is anyone surprised?
So, the R1T will in fact tow something, and rather well, just not as far as a gas powered truck. Is anyone surprised?
It might be "best CAR of the year" but it has no place in the truck world. 60 miles of range towing 7k. Useless in the real world...as a truck. Blew through 81% of the battery going 50 miles TO the beginning of the Ike's Gauntlet, had to recharge before going up. 2% of the battery was regenerated going down. High loads are just range killers on EVs.
https://tfltruck.com/2022/01/finall...the-worlds-toughest-towing-test-ike-gauntlet/
https://tfltruck.com/2022/01/finall...the-worlds-toughest-towing-test-ike-gauntlet/
