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borgward said:
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FYI Penske owns over 60% of all dealerships. Penske and oil executives sit on the boards of American car manufacturers. It's a rigged economy.
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Et alors la marmotte, elle met le chocolat dans du papier alu 😇.

Penske is one of the top three Dealership groups. They are third after Lithia and AutoNation.

Along with another seven groups - don't ask, I don't have their names - they are the top ten, and hold 9-something percent of the whole market.

The top 150 group own 24% of the market.

The remaining 76% are owned by independent owners and groups.

So my respects to Penske and to any healthy conspiracy, but - nope.

Car manufacturers have to provide parts for 10 years. After that, it's what the market dictates. And the market dictates, unfortunately, that a car that was only sold for emissions compliance credits (and possibly sold at cost to begin with) is not one that would get much attention from anyone after that. Manufacturers included. Ford even stopped selling "regular" cars in the US. Should be sign enough.

Your Fiesta is not the victim of a conspiracy other than being sold on the US market. In Europe, she's a queen. Here, she's that snotty cousin seven times removed that no one understands and wants to forget. At least as far as it's family goes.

If it's any consolation - an F150 in Europe would have an even worse fate.
 
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Whimsey said:
That's disheartening, I love driving my 1996, bought new, Ford Contour with the 2.0 Zetec 4 and the 5 speed MTX75 manual transmission. It runs great and is a blast to drive. I'd hate to have to scrap it for the lack of some necessary part no longer being available. The odometer broke at 120,000 miles many years ago and it didn't make sense to get a used one, if you even could, the speedometer works, that's what counts. Do you know the model nomenclature of your manual transmission? As someone said 2013 is not old.
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B5/IB5
 
goblin said:
Car manufacturers have to provide parts for 10 years. After that, it's what the market dictates. And the market dictates, unfortunately, that a car that was only sold for emissions compliance credits (and possibly sold at cost to begin with) is not one that would get much attention from anyone after that. Manufacturers included. Ford even stopped selling "regular" cars in the US. Should be sign enough.
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No such 10 year law exists. It was a General Motors guideline, but never an actual law.
 
goblin said:
Et alors la marmotte, elle met le chocolat dans du papier alu 😇.

Penske is one of the top three Dealership groups. They are third after Lithia and AutoNation.

Along with another seven groups - don't ask, I don't have their names - they are the top ten, and hold 9-something percent of the whole market.

The top 150 group own 24% of the market.

The remaining 76% are owned by independent owners and groups.

So my respects to Penske and to any healthy conspiracy, but - nope.

Car manufacturers have to provide parts for 10 years. After that, it's what the market dictates. And the market dictates, unfortunately, that a car that was only sold for emissions compliance credits (and possibly sold at cost to begin with) is not one that would get much attention from anyone after that. Manufacturers included. Ford even stopped selling "regular" cars in the US. Should be sign enough.

Your Fiesta is not the victim of a conspiracy other than being sold om the US market. In Europe, she's a queen. Here, she's that snotty cousin seven times removed that no one understands and wants to forget. At least as far as it's family goes.

If it's any consolation- an F150 in Europe would have an even worse fate.
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Last time I checked (a few years ago) Penske owned over 60% of all car dealerships. That was a fact. Maybe he owned the "independent" ones as well. I looked it up that Penske and oil executives were on American car companies board of directors. That is a conflict of interest. My 72 Datsun got 36 MPG. Fiesta averages 37 MPG. that's 1 MPG increase over 40 years. Try buying anything that gets high MPG today. It's mostly big trucks. Friends new F150 is so big that it has to have a ladder built into the tailgate, so you can get into the bed. He has always driven pickups but complains it is really hard to park and maneuver. 16 MPG going down the highway. My 70's Chevy Pickup w/350 got 20 MPG at highway speed.
 
Kira said:
Have you a name or town name?
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Manual transmission warehouse in Sacramento CA. My dad told me there is a manual transmission specialist north of Temecula and west of Beaumont CA. He can't remember the name. He bought a rebuilt manual transmission for the mustang he owned. There's a place in Arvada Colorado called L&R Automotive that specializes specifically in manual transmission repair and rebuild.
 
borgward said:
Last time I checked (a few years ago) Penske owned over 60% of all car dealerships. That was a fact. Maybe he owned the "independent" ones as well. I looked it up that Penske and oil executives were on American car companies board of directors. That is a conflict of interest. My 72 Datsun got 36 MPG. Fiesta averages 37 MPG. that's 1 MPG increase over 40 years. Try buying anything that gets high MPG today. It's mostly big trucks. Friends new F150 is so big that it has to have a ladder built into the tailgate, so you can get into the bed. He has always driven pickups but complains it is really hard to park and maneuver. 16 MPG going down the highway. My 70's Chevy Pickup w/350 got 20 MPG at highway speed.
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We'd be getting down a very deep rabbit hole here, but any modern car made today that would weigh what your Datsun used to weigh would have way better gas mileage.

Especially if it has the Datsun's performance and if you're ok with a 14 sec 0-60 time, and ok with being scraped off the dashboard with a spatula in a 40mph frontal crash.

I can (still, for a limited time) buy a Mitsubishi Mirage, new, that does just about that. 43mpg.

Cars getting bigger is not a conspiracy. It's a specific of the US market. F150s on the highway pass me every morning doing 90mph. If they want to do it - they can have at it, but shouldn't complain.
 
goblin said:
We'd be getting down a very deep rabbit hole here, but any modern car made today that would weigh what your Datsun used to weigh would have way better gas mileage.

Especially if it has the Datsun's performance and if you're ok with a 14 sec 0-60 time, and ok with being scraped off the dashboard with a spatula in a 40mph frontal crash.

I can (still, for a limited time) buy a Mitsubishi Mirage, new, that does just about that. 43mpg.

Cars getting bigger is not a conspiracy. It's a specific of the US market. F150s on the highway pass me every morning doing 90mph. If they want to do it - they can have at it, but shouldn't complain.
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The survivability in car accidents today isn't something anyone could have wrapped their head around 20-30 years ago. I've worked hospital security for two years and the people involved in rollovers that come in with minor injuries is amazing. Try rolling a 1995 Honda accord over at 75 mph and I don't think you'd be in great shape. In high school my friend had a Toyota Tercel wagon and we laughed when you could lean on the door and it flexed.
 
goblin said:
We'd be getting down a very deep rabbit hole here, but any modern car made today that would weigh what your Datsun used to weigh would have way better gas mileage.

Especially if it has the Datsun's performance and if you're ok with a 14 sec 0-60 time, and ok with being scraped off the dashboard with a spatula in a 40mph frontal crash.

I can (still, for a limited time) buy a Mitsubishi Mirage, new, that does just about that. 43mpg.

Cars getting bigger is not a conspiracy. It's a specific of the US market. F150s on the highway pass me every morning doing 90mph. If they want to do it - they can have at it, but shouldn't complain.
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I'm doing 95 on the toll road here and SUV's blow by me. My datsun 1200 was known as a pocket rocket. Still have it w/about 800,000 miles on it. I could beat anything off the line and get a few car lengths until they blew by me.
if you think modern cars are safe take a look at:











https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Axoj457M2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYx1bPUpJgU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JyqA2BdeHF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oaPtUwngDqU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L6jspVOm-0M

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qGNTX1xYUy8

I have toyed with the idea of putting a Fiesta engine into the Datsun. Don't know how integrating the engine management would go.

We live in a disposable society now. Nothing lasts. Kitchen and laundry appliances, hard to fix - just throw away. That's "advanced capitalist society" - Haruki Murakami.
 
goblin said:
Possibly because said parts were still used in the production of new cars, or cars whose production stopped leas than 10 years prior, not because anyone cared about your 25 year old car :)
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Or if the cars are still chugging along all over the 3rd world and there's a huge demand for parts. 90s Corolla still have parts demand all over the 3rd world.
 
PandaBear said:
Or if the cars are still chugging along all over the 3rd world and there's a huge demand for parts. 90s Corolla still have parts demand all over the 3rd world.
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Let's face it, those company parts are not made by ford or whoever they are made by independent companies. A friend had to replace a fender on his 70's Subaru. Junkyard said they had it. Took us out to a Corolla. I explained that is not a Subaru. Sure enough that fender bolted right onto the Subaru. everything matched.
 
goblin said:
Mitsubishi Mirage
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Aug 6, 2024The Mitsubishi Mirage has officially been declared dead, as it will not return to the U.S. market for the 2025 model year. That's a 1.2L 3 cyl engine. Impressed it only weighs 2100 lbs and has manual transmission. Probably not enough bottom end grunt. That's my main complaint about the Fiesta. At 2600 lbs it really needs a 2 L engine.
 
borgward said:
I'm doing 95 on the toll road here and SUV's blow by me. My datsun 1200 was known as a pocket rocket. Still have it w/about 800,000 miles on it. I could beat anything off the line and get a few car lengths until they blew by me.
if you think modern cars are safe take a look at:











https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Axoj457M2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYx1bPUpJgU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JyqA2BdeHF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oaPtUwngDqU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L6jspVOm-0M

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qGNTX1xYUy8

I have toyed with the idea of putting a Fiesta engine into the Datsun. Don't know how integrating the engine management would go.

We live in a disposable society now. Nothing lasts. Kitchen and laundry appliances, hard to fix - just throw away. That's "advanced capitalist society" - Haruki Murakami.
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Free markets are good, but companies have unfortunately have gone with the lowest bidder on parts.
 
Yeah, I grew up in a country with a non-free market, let's talk ? Or rather not ?
I got signed on the waiting list for a Lada at 3 years old by my parents. Deposit was around seven months pay, and I was number 180000 in the waiting list. When I hit 18, they were serving number 140000-ish.

Count your blessings.
 
SatinSilver said:
Maybe @clinebarger can help.
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Borgward PM'ed me.

Manual transmission parts can be hard to get, Been that way for years if not a couple decades. Some popular models like the T-56 six speed have great support from the manufacturer (Tremec) & the aftermarket.

It all starts with "Did the manufacturer support rebuilding" OR were they sold as whole assembly?


Not just manual transmissions either, Some older Toyota/Aisin Warner automatics have little to no aftermarket support outside of gaskets & seals, And Toyota parts might as well be made of gold.

I wouldn't doubt Europe is a good source for parts, Many more manual equipped vehicles & not quite the throwaway culture we have when it comes to passenger cars.
 
borgward said:
2013 ford fiesta hatchback 5 speed manual 1.6 engine. Any knowledge of National Powertrain? Sold through Autozone.
I wonder where they are getting parts like synchro rings and another proprietary things. Makes you wonder remanufacturers just clean up used transmissions, maybe replace input and output seals.
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From Ford everything is available to rebuild this. There aren't any kits, so parts are ordered individually as needed.
 
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