RAYBESTOS PGD800M Element3
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Well, usually the letters are upper case(capital letters) however, they may be ee/EE.
And with my experience, EE would be semi-metallic pads but, I guess they could be ceramic as well, I just don't know.
EE pads could be a more aggressive friction material meaning better initial bite.
And with my experience, EE would be semi-metallic pads but, I guess they could be ceramic as well, I just don't know.
EE pads could be a more aggressive friction material meaning better initial bite.
Well, EE is the lowest letter designation that I am aware of however, I wouldn't think that it means lowest quality. But, I am still learning about brake Coefficient of Friction(CoF). I think(but don't really know) that the letter designation is a friction grading system but, not like a report card. It just lets Techs & DIYers know what we're getting once we understand the system. Again, I don't know this for a fact.
I am a fan of FF and simply DO NOT like GG. I've never had a set of GG pads that I've liked even though there are many members here that prefer the GG. I just don't seem to get the initial braking bite that I enjoy/prefer(such as most OE). Every time I've gotten a set of GG(before I knew what this all meant), I hated my brakes after the install but, never know why.
I am a fan of FF and simply DO NOT like GG. I've never had a set of GG pads that I've liked even though there are many members here that prefer the GG. I just don't seem to get the initial braking bite that I enjoy/prefer(such as most OE). Every time I've gotten a set of GG(before I knew what this all meant), I hated my brakes after the install but, never know why.
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The Elements 3 hybrid EHT819H is the pad you want that is a GG pad and a good one. The 800M is a very aggressive metallic that will wear hard on the rotors, definitely not the best choice for your Saab.
On these cars I use the Textar, ATE, Pagid, or Mintex pads.
Have never seen any correlation between friction rating and a marketing term that a brake manufacturer uses. Realize that, for example, "premium" means absolutely nothing, it's just opinion. One company's poor brake pad could be better than another company's premium brake pad.
Yes, they could be EE, and I've seen EE pads.
The Akebono Euro pads are GG
The Akebono Euro pads are GG
I just put Element 3 pads on my 2000 Mustang. I got them from Rockauto and they were made in China. The pads stop well, but the hardware that came with them caused the brakes to stick and was really bad. Thankfully I was able to fish my old shims out of the trash.
The Saturn L-series (Opel Vectra) also takes these pads. Strangely, Akebono uses 800 for the Saturn and 819 for Saab, some use 819 for Saab and 800 for Saturn, and others consolidate both on the same pad!
The EHT pads probably will fit your 9-3, but Akebono is better
EBC also makes separate 800 and 819 pads
The Saturn L-series (Opel Vectra) also takes these pads. Strangely, Akebono uses 800 for the Saturn and 819 for Saab, some use 800 for Saab and 819 for Saturn, and others consolidate both on the same pad!
The EHT pads probably will fit your 9-3, but Akebono is better
EBC also makes separate 800 and 819 pads
oops, sorry for the mistake. I corrected it above
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