rank these oils, which one would you choose

[virginoil]

Vehicle buick V6 4 speed auto
Driving mix of mainly short (5km) city driving and long trips on fwy sometimes driven hard
Climate 5deg to 18 deg winter
12deg to 40deg summer

Prefer one oil all year round

AGIP SINT EVOLUTION 5W-40 (FROM ITALY)
Approvals
VW 505.00 | VW 502.00 | API CF | ACEA A3 | ACEA B3 | ACEA B4 | LAMBORGHINI | MB 229.3 | MASERATI | API SL | GM LL-B-025 | BMW Longlife 01
Visc 100deg C 14.1 cst Pour Pt -39deg C
Visc 40 deg C 93.0 cst Flash Pt 220deg C


FUCHS TITAN SUPERSYN 5W40 (MADE IN AUSTRALIA)
Approvals
ACEA A3/B4 API SM/CF MB 229.1 VW 502 00/ 505 00
BMW Longlife PORSCHE
Visc. 100deg C 14.1 Pour Pt –54 deg C
Visc. 40 deg C 80.0 Flash Pt 220deg C

CASTROL EDGE 0W40 (Origin not sure, Europe or Austrlia, Castrol says made of same stuff as overseas)
Approvals
ACEA A3/B4 API SM/CF MB 229.1 VW 502 00, 503.01 & 505 00
BMW Longlife 01 Ford Performance Vehicles
Visc. 100deg C 13.5 Pour Pt –54 deg C
Visc. 40 deg C 80.0 Flash Pt 234 deg C

Thanks for your input

Virginoil

 

[JHZR2]

AGIP>Castrol>Fuchs

Agip has a LOT of approvals, not worth much in and of themselves, but the overall protection and long-term resistance to degradation will surely be higher, especially with the GM approvals.

Castrol is nice because it is a lighter oil, so MPG improves likely without sacrificing anything. Fuchs doesnt have a lot of approvals, and may be a good oil, but the agip has similar specs when warm (I dont think you worry about cold temps)...

JMH

 

[Primus]

virginoil,
A comparison will not be really fair (if you offer to compare Agip Techsint 0W-40 or 5W-30, Titan SuperSyn SL 0W-30 and Castrol Edge 0W-40 !). So, based on base stock only I would rate as follows: Castrol, Fuchs and Agip.

In its time Agip Techsint series was quite popular due to its really top quality offered at a very attractive price and 5W-30 grade was usually rated higher then 0W-40. As for Sint Evolution, its gr.III+ like many other 5W-40 oils now. I don't say it's bad, but just not too "comfortable" composition for the real oil purists.

 

[toyota62]

Castrol/agip/fuchs.
Castrol 0w-40 PAO base engine oil and BMW-01
MB 229.3
Agip base oil? BMW-01 MB 229.3
Fuchs PAO/Group3 BMW-98 MB 229.1

 

[toyota62]

virginoil.
Why dont you try Mobil1 0w-40? Even cheap 5w-50 grade?

 

[blupupher]

Castrol- I am turning into a 0w-xx freak. I also like the slightly thinner 40 weight. Higher flash point than the other 2 also.

Fuchs- Newer SM for API, but not as many overall approvals, but has lower visc @ 40, so a little easier when starting.

AGIP- Although many approvals, still SL formula, so may not be the newest formula

But I don't know much, so take it for what it's worth.

 

[virginoil]

Looks like Castrol is the go, will try the 0w40 next change.

toyota 62
I have tried the Mobil 5W50 SL Supersyn a little start up noise, quietens fairly quickly though.

Currently with the Agip Tecsint 5w40 SJ, and no start up noise at all.

Primus
I didn't know Agip Sint Evolution was group 3, some think this is OK, I am not that fussed about it.

Thankyou to all who responded.

Virginoil

 

[toyota62]

Hi.
I have tried Mobil1 5w-50 and 0w-40
Castrol 0w-40 FMX and magnatec 10w-30
Motul 300v 5w-30 motul 8100 5w-40
Up to now Mobil1 0w-40 is the best.(Cold start up noise,power,fuel economy.)
Worst oil Motul 8100 5w-40 no power bad fuel economy.
Try Mobil1 0w-40.

 

[toyota62]

Hi.
I have tried Mobil1 5w-50 and 0w-40
Castrol 0w-40 FMX and magnatec 10w-30
Motul 300v 5w-30 motul 8100 5w-40
Up to now Mobil1 0w-40 is the best.(Cold start up noise,power,fuel economy.)
Worst oil Motul 8100 5w-40 no power bad fuel economy.
Try Mobil1 0w-40.

 

[toyota62]

Holden/Buick 3800 V6 factory recommended oil grade is 10w-30.Try Mobil1 10w-30.We use Castrol FMX magnatec 10w-30 at work.

 

[adiposis]

Is Agip sint evolution base oil Grp III+??

Please, help me get info about your insist.

 

[BillionPa]

castrol, but only if its the high TBN version of the 0W40

 

[Turbodriven]

Quote:

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Hi.
I have tried Mobil1 5w-50 and 0w-40
Castrol 0w-40 FMX and magnatec 10w-30
Motul 300v 5w-30 motul 8100 5w-40
Up to now Mobil1 0w-40 is the best.(Cold start up noise,power,fuel economy.)
Worst oil Motul 8100 5w-40 no power bad fuel economy.
Try Mobil1 0w-40.

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Hardly scientific and I battle to believe that Mobil 5w-50 gives better fuel consumption than 8100. Don't get me wrong, I use Mobil 0w-40 and Motul 300v and think they are both about as good as you can get for modern cars, but I do think the 8100 is a better oil than the M1. Did you do UOA?

My opinion on the original question...Castrol and then Fuchs...I would not put Agip into my car even if it were free.

 

[johnbottilaw]

Yeah, but with the Motul you have the indignity of using an item affiliated with the French. Better to sell the car and walk.

 

[T-Keith]

3800s are so easy on oil, you won't have a problem with anything. I've had great results with dino, synthetic, thick and thin.