Project Farms: Is “High Mileage” Motor Oil Safe? Let’s find out! Mobil 1 vs Mobil 1 High Mileage; SuperTech vs STHM

[odie]

Of course, as is 99% of this site.

Including myself !

 

[TiGeo]

In before lock. #LMMoS2andEngineFlush4lyfe

 

[odie]

He was right about the EGO 56V leaf blower . Works great . Like the humor with that video .

 

[kschachn]

What would be an adequate representation of a motor oils behavior running in very cold temps? From what I saw, PF video wasn't over how motor oil behaves in cold temps, but rather testing the oil's cold flow characteristics.

The suite of tests in SAE J300 which characterize cranking and pumpability.

 

[kschachn]

Every time a post about him comes up, the exasperation is there, so let's not act like it isn't. For the eleventy billionth time, I think we know this about his tests already. Show me whose stuff got ruined because of Project Farm...that's probably a better barometer.

Yes and the reason is because there isn't an existing problem that his tests are discriminating. Like that other useless website where oils are ranked, the saving grace is that his useless data isn't actually determining anything.

Here if someone is already using an oil with a winter rating that is appropriate for the expected starting temperatures then no foul, no harm. But the video isn't actually doing anything above and beyond that. Kind of like taking a placebo.

 

[kschachn]

Maybe pour point has some relevance when you want the thinnest 0W oil for use in the artic.... I use pour point (among other things) to help me determine how much grp III the synthetic is using. I'd rather spend on PAO if the specs I need are met.

Pour point is a pretty good representation of that but PPD also influence the test.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

Yes but that flow is largely irrelevant in an ICE. It has to pump, not flow. The M1 flow test is a bit odd because it isn't representative of what is required. However, it goes right along with the even more stupid "lubricity test".

Since you stated "go at it boys" then that tells me you already know this.

What's wrong with the lubricity test?

 

[Jetronic]

Pour point is a pretty good representation of that but PPD also influence the test.

exactly; so can't use it as a sole determinant.

 

[kschachn]

What's wrong with the lubricity test?

Nothing if you're characterizing gear oils and the test is being performed using standardized test equipment being operated in a controlled manner with a proper sample size and then reduced, analyzed and presented using a statistically significant method. These YouTube tests have none of that, they are not representative of any process in an ICE and they have none of the rest I mentioned.

 

[Wingo]

The guy does a good job testing stuff out. There's a lot more thought and actual testing done by him than the majority of the blowhards on this forum.

 

[kschachn]

The guy does a good job testing stuff out. There's a lot more thought and actual testing done by him than the majority of the blowhards on this forum.

In terms of this "test" that characterizes motor oils, what does he do that is useful and presents information not otherwise available?

Some of his tests on knives and leaf blowers are indeed useful but he should stick to those types of experiments, not something for which he's very much unqualified.

 

[Wingo]

In terms of this "test" that characterizes motor oils, what does he do that is useful and presents information not otherwise available?

Show me your test then, if it's better I'll listen to you

 

[Cujet]

I'll admit, I put my oil in the freezer to see how viscous it becomes.

And he did provide 4 Blackstone VOA's with TBN on the oils tested. That's valuable in itself.

 

[kschachn]

Show me your test then, if it's better I'll listen to you

Sure. It is called SAE J300 which actually tests relevant properties of motor oils that have real-world meaning. If you don't like that then perhaps some of the additional specifications or approvals that various manufacturers provide.

The blowhard here is PF, not actual performance tests.

 

[PimTac]

This is the same guy that tested Kirkland oil against Supertech. Guess which oil won?

 

[cheesepuffs2]

Nothing if you're characterizing gear oils and the test is being performed using standardized test equipment being operated in a controlled manner with a proper sample size and then reduced, analyzed and presented using a statistically significant method. These YouTube tests have none of that, they are not representative of any process in an ICE and they have none of the rest I mentioned.

What about the splash lubrication of cylinder walls? It doesn't at all represent that, seeing as how there's no oil pressure involved?

 

[kschachn]

What about the splash lubrication of cylinder walls? It doesn't at all represent that, seeing as how there's no oil pressure involved?

What about it?

 

[Hyundai Respecter]

I don’t know what it is but it’s always the same people that get triggered when someone posts a Project Farm video. I think his videos are fun and entertaining. No need to take it so seriously.

 

[kschachn]

I don’t know what it is but it’s always the same people that get triggered when someone posts a Project Farm video. I think his videos are fun and entertaining. No need to take it so seriously.

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Ain't it the truth? Posting memes and anything other than actual information.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

What about it?

I said, it doesn't at all represent that?