PP Euro 0w40 - cold flow properties

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Don't know about the low MRV. Maybe because of the GTL? It's certainly better than the 21,600 M1 0w-40 claims. I note that both of these oils do not show BMW LL-01 approval. So they are similar in that regard too. wink
 
Anyone know if they sell PP Euro at Autozone or O'Reilly? I need some 5w-40 for my Fiat.
 
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Anyone know if they sell PP Euro at Autozone or O'Reilly? I need some 5w-40 for my Fiat.
I'd check Amazon first. Pennzoil Euro 5w40
 
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Interesting that the non-Euro 0W40 has slightly better CCS results but much worse MRV numbers...I guess those two tests are measuring quite different physical properties, anyway. I haven't seen a VOA for either product, but I'd guess the Euro product is probably high SAPS and might have a lot of calcium that could be problematic for LSPI...but, it also might have a lot of ZDDP that would help quench LSPI. The Pennzoil Euro L oils are mid to low SAPS that are likely low in calcium but probably also with a low starting TBN.
 
Castrol EDGE 0W-40 pour point is -53C! Due to it being mostly PAO. EDGE product data sheet Unfortunately Castrol doesn’t list actual pumping or cranking viscosities. Regardless safe to assume it wins.
 
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Originally Posted By: shanneba
Red Line 0w-40 has a pour point of -60 C. CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 57@-35 https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/files/tech/0W40_MO_PROD_INFO.pdf
Which turns into 5,700cP @ -35C, which compares to 5,960cP @ -35C for the SOPUS product and 6,062cP @ -35C for AMSOIL signature and 5,888cP @ -35C for AMSOIL Euro 0w-40. Given the repeatability of the test, they are all extremely close.
 
From the MSDS: So 5-15% PAO and then 0-90% some low-vis base oil which, if it is similar in VI to a PAO, would be 4.xcSt @ 100C. That points to a whole lotta VII.....
 
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From the MSDS: So 5-15% PAO and then 0-90% some low-vis base oil which, if it is similar in VI to a PAO, would be 4.xcSt @ 100C. That points to a whole lotta VII.....
Thanks Overkill, on the msds details. Could Pennzoil GTL 0W40 keep VII low enough to be close to Redline's , by employing 6/8/10 cSt @100*C GTL basestocks ? From PDS, what parameter I should look for to 'assess' whether thin 4 cSt or thicker 8 cSt @100*C base stock is used , that's of course assuming 8/10 cSt is available in the market ?
 
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
From the MSDS: So 5-15% PAO and then 0-90% some low-vis base oil which, if it is similar in VI to a PAO, would be 4.xcSt @ 100C. That points to a whole lotta VII.....
Thanks Overkill, on the msds details. Could Pennzoil GTL 0W40 keep VII low enough to be close to Redline's , by employing 6/8/10 cSt @100*C GTL basestocks ? From PDS, what parameter I should look for to 'assess' whether thin 4 cSt or thicker 8 cSt @100*C base stock is used , that's of course assuming 8/10 cSt is available in the market ?
Well, the MSDS specifically states up to 90% of a base oil that is less than 20.5cSt @ 40C, which means it will be around 4cst @ 100C (or lower). The PAO is probably heavier, but.... Of course an MSDS isn't an oil recipe, and this is suitably vague, but I would say this points to a really light base oil blend with a good chunk of VII in it. The Redline oil is likely majority PAO, and subsequently wouldn't require the same VII treat rate.
 
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